Before I start this post I wish to make it abundantly clear this is a post based completely on my opinion and your mileage might vary. We all read into things what we wish to and of course I am no different from anyone else and will do the same here.
Over the course of the years writing this blog I have had the 10 vs 25 debate multiple times in replies and a few posts that actually addressed the topic. I have always, and still do believe, that 10 man raiding is harder than 25 man raiding. Having been both a 10 and 25 raider in my life this has always been what I experienced.
Some people in those debates would concede that when they standardized difficulty so that 10 and 25 man were supposed to be created on the same level in cataclysm that the 10 mans could be taken more seriously, even if still not considered part of the world first race. However we looked at it differently. I always said that 10s were made much easier when they standardized difficulty in cataclysm and they believed it was made harder.
From my perspective it has always been that 10 man raids are harder mechanically on groups and 25 mans are harder with assembly and instruction. Both had their areas of difficulty of course but when it came to the actual fight I have always said 10 man raids were harder being their difficulty came from having less room for error when compared to 25s difficulty of finding and keeping 25 competent raiders and even harder, assigning them all places to stand. 25s difficulty was in logistics, 10 mans difficulty was in accountability.
When blizzard decided to condense the 10 and 25 man raiding scene into a single size of 20 man raiding I was secretly pulling for a 10 man guild to win the first world first that popped up. Because lets face it, after this point every group is a 20 man but coming into this point there is a 10 man group increasing to 20 and a 25 man group decreasing to 20. They are still who they came from, be it a 10 man or a 25 man. After this raid tier, everyone is back on even footing once again. Every top guild is a 20 man guild. They have all had time to work and meld as a team during progression.
Huge congratulations needs to go out to Paragon for not only getting the world first but getting it by a convincing margin. If you think about it they had the cards stacked against them. They were coming from being a 10 man team, which if you were to believe what seemed to be what the majority of forum posters, meant they had no chance of getting world first. What seemed to be the idea was that they would need this tier to learn how to play with a larger team and to step up their game and then next tier they would be back in the mix.
Paragon shows them all wrong. They took their 10 man team, added 10 more people, and then still wiped the floor with the competition. You would have to say it was harder for a 10 man to add 10 new people than it was for a 25 man to lose 5, but they not only managed it, they succeeded while doing so, in a way not many of the forum posters even thought was possible.
I was rooting for them not only because they were a 10 man team stepping it up, but because I like to root for the underdogs and it seemed that everyone on the forums counted them out as "second class raiders" because they had moved to doing 10 man raiding. Personally I think that 10 man raiding makes players into better players because of the high personal responsibility and accountability that is inherent to doing them. Not like these guys needed to be better, they were already a world first team and had been so for a very long time. They were the best to begin with. They once ruled the raiding world and they showed, even with half a new team, they could still be at the top of the pack.
As I said earlier, people can read into it what they will and what I choose to read into this is that a highly skilled group of people will be world first no matter what the group size is, as paragon proved.
But looking at their track record, they were world first when they were 25, they are now world first when it is 20, but they were not world first when they were 10. Why exactly is that? I'll tell you why. Because 10 man was harder than 25 man. Always was.
I guess we now have the answer to the age old question of 10 vs 25. Case closed.
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