Everyone makes their options based on what happens to them, the people around them, and their immediate surroundings. There is nothing wrong with that. How can someone formulate an opinion on something they have no frame of reference for?
The key to keeping your tainted vision from getting too skewed is the accept the fact that any opinion you have is based only on your available data, from whatever sources it might come. I too am often victim of my own tainted vision as I can only judge things from my own experiences or the experiences of others that I can believe to be true. However, I attempt to keep an open mind on most things.
Lets take raiding for example. I keep saying that horrirdon is way to hard for the average normal mode raider now. It is based on my own personal experiences, it took us a long time. My servers progression, where only 8 guild have even downed him, mine being one. And all the horror stories I see on the forums. I've also went so far as to go down the ranks of wow-progress to see if my servers situation was like those of other servers. As it turns out, it is. Many servers have less than 50% of the active (as in having downed the first boss) guilds have downed the second and on small servers that number could be even higher.
With that data I give my opinion that horridon is just too hard for the player base as is. I have my own personal observations to fall back on and the additional information I was able to collect to think about. Hence the reason I came to that conclusion. I would also feel safe in saying that opinion is accurate for the majority of the player base and even more so the majority of non-hardcore raiding guilds, to which it would be an easy fight of course.
So with all that said I can understand that other people might see things differently but sometimes I think the biggest problem on the forums, any forums, is the inability of people to see things from any perspective but their own. They have a tainted vision and refuse to believe that any vision but their own is true.
Take this next line as the perfect example of someone, that in my opinion, has no grasp of reality. Paraphrasing it of course.
"You can hit 90 and get into a pug to go 12/12 in ToT on day one. Anyone that has not finished throne is either bad or not trying. My monk full cleared in a pug 2 days after I dinged."
This is the perfect example of a tainted view. From my own tainted view I can tell you that on my server most ToT pugs fail at even getting the first boss down and none have ever gotten the second boss down. As a matter of fact, that is the reason there is a lot of buzz going on with my guild trying to assemble a 25 man group and getting to the 4th door on week two with what is still a relatively weak crew. Because my 25 is basically still just a pug of my guilds alts and whomever we can recruit.
I must first say I don't believe a word that guy said. I do not think there are any servers in the game where you can hit 90 and get into a ToT pug that full clears. Maybe, just maybe, if you have a main that is doing heroic content and are a very well known person on a high progressed server you can get a spot in a mostly guild group to get yourself carried to a full clear. But that is about as far as I will believe.
This guy however defended himself. He actually believed that you can do this on any server. Any server? My server finally has its 4th guild that has finished normal. 5th is getting close, 6th, 7th, and 8th (mine) are not about to finish it any time soon, maybe next month. With that collection of guilds to choose from, the limited experience of most of them, and the poor player base to choose from, a 12/12 pug is not only improbable, it is impossible.
But the people coming from my perspective are not the ones that turn the forums into a bash fest. No one 6/12 ever bashes someone for being 5/12. Heck, on my server most of the people that have finished it do not bash the people that are 1/12 because they know that with what my server has to offer, downing horridon is hard.
The community would be a better place if people realized that not every one lives in their own tainted view. I see it all the time in the LFR, people love to say, I've done this on normal so I know what I am talking about. As if they are talking down to the others there. They do not realize that for many people it is not that they are incapable of doing it on normal, they are not able to because of outside reasons. Raiding is not solo content. You can be the best player in the world but unless you can find 9 or 24 equally skilled players, you will still be 1/12. Simple as that.
You can not judge a player on their progress in a raid alone. There are other factors to consider and it is only people thinking in their own tainted view that makes them believe that anyone with more progress has no life and anyone with less progress is bad. A tainted view with the blinders on. Most people in the game seem to live like that.
I am willing to accept that there are some servers that actually pug some heroic bosses. My alt shaman on another server has seen them. Have not leveled it since wrath so I can not go of course, but I see them in trade. I also realize that this is one of the most advanced US servers. It is the exception, not the rule.
It seems people too far at the top have a hard time looking down and being realistic. Same goes for people too far down at the bottom not realizing that there is an up. As if their tainted view is not willing to bend. What they believe is right. Always. And that is wrong.
One thing people need to understand is that not all experiences are the same. Just like my bad luck with loot streak. I complain about it, 8 weeks, all bosses, no drops, but that is just one case. Even if most of my characters have that type of luck I know that is not the way it is for everyone. Yet the person that wins everything all the time seems to think that it is that way for everyone.
Maybe all this is about is that I want to know what server it is that you can hit 90 and get into a 12/12 clear on day one. I think I will send my alts over there. If it is that easy, they can carry a crappy lock can't they?
That comment just amazed me about how detached from reality that person is. Even more so how he went on to defend it. Remember, everyone should be 12/12 because you can hit 90 and get into a full clear on any server. Some people just amaze me how blind they are.
Gear. Again. Still.
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