Old Time Hunter Loot

I finally got a chance to run Serpentshrine Cavern for the first time and I was glad for that.  It had two of three possible T5 drops I was looking for and ending up getting both of them.  Next week on throwback night we are going to run Tempest Keep.  I had gotten one of the T5 tokens last time I ran it so only need one more from there.  Maybe I will get lucky with that.  Once I get that one and the one from the cavern that did not drop this run I will have all five of the T5 pieces.

You might ask why I want the T5 set.  If you are a hunter you might know, if you ever looked into serious soloing then you sure know why I want it. Just check out the Pet Healing from the two piece bonus.  That is 15% of all the damage I do that heals my pet.  That is insane.  Now think of it in terms of the damage I can put out now based on the damage things used to hit for back then.  If I can keep up a solid flow of damage while my turtle holds aggrro I can effectively heal it through anything old school.  I am loving it for my soloing.

I want to get all 5 pieces of the T5 set even if I do not need more then two and there is a very solid reason for that.  I never know what my gear will look like and which two pieces I should use.  At the moment with all T10 (and crafted legs) it is not much of an issue which 2 I put on when I go soloing.  However, when the time comes where I get some marks and upgrade a few of the pieces I will pick and choose which two T5s I will be using.  Having all 5 of them gives me options.  I like options.

A friend of mine said that my bad luck is over being I got the two T5 tokens.  I told him, it does not count being they were given to me.  If I had to roll for them I probably would have either lost, or wasted my good roll I had been saving up.

Now I am thinking of looking around for some more classic hunter loot.  Must have hunter loot.  For use or just to have.  I have the bow, quiver and the 3 pieces of T5 so far.  So what is next?

What is Deserving?

In my last post I mentioned the word "Deserving" in reference to being deserving of gear.  It got me wondering what exactly makes someone deserving of anything.  All 25 people worked to get that boss killed so aren't all 25 people equally deserving?

All in all, on an even playing field the answer to that question would be a resounding yes.  But there is never really an even playing field.  We all have our skills and weaknesses.  We all have our good days and bad days.  We all have our own idiosyncrasies.   Like me, I am grumpy.  I fake it and most don't really know it but in the end I can usually find something to be grumpy about even if there should not be anything.  It is like a thrive off of being grumpy.

In a team effort you have to look at things in the points of a whole team and not the single pieces of the team.  Looking at single pieces should be secondary.  A team should work like a machine, each member of the team is another piece that makes that machine run smoothly.  When upgrading your machine you look at the pieces that need improvement and the options available to you.

In the case of our team we are going to use the "all things being equal" idea and work from there.  The tanks all have enough life and avoidance that they can live without fear of possible spike damage.  The healers make sure everyone lives without running out of mana.  The DPS are doing more then enough damage that it never even gets close to the enrage timer.

From what I just described there really is no need what so ever to upgrade any of the parts of this machine.  It is working perfectly, as it should really.  If something that would upgrade any part of the machine drops it is really not needed.  It is wanted.  Everyone that can use it wants it but by getting to it they proved they did not need it.  There is no NEED there, only WANT.

That is where we get to who is deserving of it.  The ultimate fair way to decide who gets it is with the luck of the roll.  The roll however does not address who deserves it.  Remember what I said, no one needs it.  So using the standard "whoever needs it most" is bullshit.  If they downed the boss they really did not need it.  The might need it to down the next boss, but at the stage you are currently at, loot for that boss, they do not need it.

What do you use to decide who needs it?

Person A: Shows up late.
Person B: Shows up on time.

Person A: Shows up without flasks.
Person B: Shows up with flasks.

Person A: Never brings any supplies.
Person B: Brings enough for him/herself and enough for others.

Person A: Always needs a summon even though they knew a week in advance where they were going to need to be.
Person B: Is waiting there 10 minutes before start time to summon those people to lazy to make their own way there.

Person A: Needs fight tactics explained.  Every time.
Person B: Knows the tactics of the fight.

Person A: Need a bathroom break, a cig break and then a phone break between every boss.
Person B: Might ask for 2 minutes once every hour or two.

Person A: Has a high gear score and does well.
Person B: Has the same gear score and does exceptional.

Player A: Does not stop what they are doing to assist elsewhere.
Player B: Will do whatever needs to get done if help is needed elsewhere.

Player A: Never even notices that something is happening around them.
Player B: Is completely aware of their surroundings.

While looking at those things you will notice that Player B sure as hell seems more deserving of it.  However we revert to need once again.  Neither need it.  Both want it.  Just because Player A is not deserving of it does not mean he wants it any less.  Their want levels are effectively even.  Even with all that you can make an argument that Player B deserves it more.  But it would be only a slight argument.  If anything and there is one spot left to invite to the raid, looking at that, Player B gets the raid spot.  That is what that example shows. Sure Player B put in more effort and is more of the team type of player you want to see but is that enough?

If judging who deserves it, I say yes.  I would like to move on further however.  Looking at things from a purely DPS perspective now.

If giving a piece to Player A will up his/her maximum DPS potential by 500 and giving it to Player B will up his/her maximum potential DPS by 300 would that make Player A more deserving?

Only if you look at the DPS output based on potential.

Lets say Player A has a maximum DPS potential of 8500 and is currently doing 4500 he/she is only doing a little more then 1/2 of his potential.  So giving him/her something that ups their DPS potential by 500 you would have to figure would mean they are roughly going to gain a little more then 1/2 from it based on performance.

Lets say Player B has a maximum DPS potential of 8000 and is currently doing 7000, that would mean they are working at near 90% of their potential DPS increase based on past performance.

So, while Player A has a higher maximum potential then Player B and Player A would gain more potential using the item then Player B it is not that black and white.  The item, when giving to the most deserving person, would be given to the person that will do the most with it.  Which in turn would mean they are the person that brings more to the team. The person that brings more to the team is the person that is doing the best percentage based on their maximum potential.

Now this is where I sit and think about it. 
Am I really the more deserving person for things sometimes?  Ab-so-fucking-lutely.
Would I ever take something that was just given to me because I was the most deserving?  Nope, never.

So if I would not take it if it were given to me why would I waste all this time being grumpy about it?  Well, being grumpy is what I do.  That and the fact that when I sit back and call another person undeserving I would not do that just because I am upset I lost a roll.  Losing a roll I can deal with.  It happens.  I just feel it is a kick in the ass to lose something to somebody that does not deserve it.  Being I explained what deserving it means I am being factual and not just plan old grumpy with my bad rolling.

So when I actually call someone undeserving I would not be like the jerks that got geared up and left saying they did not want to help gear up people that were undeserving.  When it comes to deserving, the one true way to make yourself undeserving is to not need it.  How is someone else getting something bad when you did not need it anyway?  You were undeserving of it.  Not them.

Funny thing is this.  I forever run other people through things I need nothing from to help them get items.  I have no issues gearing people up.  Deserving or not does not make a difference if I don't need it anyway.  Never once have a ran something that I needed nothing from and it got me to the point I could consider quitting.

Yet I sit around now considering quitting because I did not get something I deserved.  The exact opposite of the reason they left.  They left because they had everything they wanted and did not want to help others gear up.  Helping people gear up is fun, not a reason to quit.  I help other gear up even if I do not have what I need.  I wonder something about all these people that won these things.  When they get to the point they need nothing from there are they going to keep going so I can finally get it?  I doubt it.  They will have what they want.  Why should they help gear me.  Yeah, it pisses me off.  If I got it, I would run it with them until they did.  But when they get what they want they leave me out in the cold.

I might be a grumpy elf, but I have damn good reason to be one.  In general I really hate people.

The Game has Offically Lost it's Fun

It is getting crazy now with raiding.  It has gotten to the point that I am not having fun.  I am wasting 3 hours of my life for absolutely nothing.  My streak of bad luck can not go on much further. I keep saying I will wait it out, I will be a team player, I will do what needs to be done and I do keep doing that. 

Finally had a night where some hunter loot actually dropped and what is more amazing, there were two things I really needed.  Like best in slot needed.  There was one other thing I might have liked, but those two things were what I have been hoping I was being punished with all my other rolls so I could get them.  You know, like karma.  I always roll like crap or straight out pass to others that can use it but when the time comes when something drops that I really need I will get it.  Nope, still rolled like crap.  At least I got double digits this time.  Still lost.

As much as I try to be the nice guy there is only so much the nice guy can get shit on before he says fuck it and just gives up.  Now the guild wants to make sure all the tanks and healers get marks first before the DPS.  So lets see, my luck with rolling is shit, I never win anything.  Hunter loot rarely drops to begin with. Now add to the fact that the warrior, hunter, shaman mark is going to be given to tanks and healers before DPS. 

Lets see, we have 2 warrior tanks and 1 shaman healer.  That means, best case, 12 weeks before I can get a mark.  But wait, 12 weeks would mean at least one drops every week and I have only seen 3 in the last 6 weeks, so that means 24 weeks.  In 24 weeks I won't want the fucking mark.  I'll be wearing Cataclysm greens that are better most likely.

It is just not worth the effort any more.  I show up on time and ready.  I wait for an hour for everyone else to show and to fill up because many people apparently can't tell time.  I come prepared, with flasks and end up giving other people flasks because they forgot to get them.  How is it that I give flasks to the same people every fucking week because they always forget to bring them?  They know they are raiding that night.  Buy a few flasks before you come damn it.  At least pretend like you are being a team player.  Stop relying on others all the time.

The biggest kicker is the two pieces I really needed went to some timers.  The people that are late for raids or just do not show sometimes.  Sure they say they are sorry, but they are still not dedicated raiders in any way, shape or form.  Now I am starting to feel the way the people that left felt.  I fell like I am just running to gear people up.  People that don't deserve it.  Thing is, I have an argument.  I still lead the DPS charts and I have not gotten one piece of gear, at all, whereas they where getting geared up. 

If anything, there is an argument that giving me the gear will put it to better use being apparently I know what I am doing and they don't if they can not beat me even if they are all in better gear then I am.  Think of it as we are all one big machine.  Oiling one part of the machine ups productiveness by 2% and oiling another part of the machine ups productivity by 5%.  Now think of it as you can only oil one part, which part do you oil?  The part that gives the most productivity right?  Well lets see, say one piece of gear is a 300 DPS upgrade.  Who should you give it to, the person that will make the total team DPS go up 30 DPS using it or the person that will make the total team DPS go up 300 DPS using it.  You give it to the one that will get the most from it because it makes for a better team over all.

The basic point is the game is supposed to be fun.  Sure, we all lose rolls but at some point it becomes to much to deal with.  Each week seeing people get upgrades I need when I still destroy them on the DPS charts, I still need to give them a flask because they forgot it and I still have to sit around waiting for them, it is just to much.  They do not deserve the gear.  Yeap, I said it and I never have before, but they do not deserve it.  Never have I considered gear as something that someone would deserve but that was basically because I was new, I never experienced this for an extended point like I have.  Now I am beginning to understand why some guild have the hard ass rules.  Thing with me is I am still morally against those rules.

The game has just lost all fun for me.  It is about the point where I just give up.  If I am going to keep running I am not going to give a crap about trying to do the best I can because apparently that is not required, there are people that warp me in gear doing over 3K less and they get gear all the time too.  I am going to stop bringing flasks and expect others to bring them for me.  I am going to start showing up late just so I can make everyone wait. (okay, I am just being grumpy there, I would not do anything of that you know)

Maybe once I start acting like the people that win the rolls I will start winning some rolls.  They say nice guys finish last.  That has been my case.  Been too nice.  From now on, fuck everyone else.  I am going to start being a jerk when raiding.  Rolling on things I do not need just to deny others from getting it.  But that will never happen, I won't win the roles anyway.

All I want to do is have fun with the game and that has not been happening.  I am a strict 10 raider.  Not one piece of gear from 25 man.  Problem is, I've been doing 25 man forever.  No one can roll this bad for this long.  The game has lost its fun.

If it were not for the fact I was tired, and in some pain from dental work I had done earlier that afternoon I might have pulled one of those internet rage moments and quit the guild.  I am glad I didn't.  It is not my style, I really just post it here to vent it and then I fell better and move along.  I am just really not having any fun at all in the game lately.  One win per month at least would be nice.

Free and Easy Gear

I always say that gear is easy to get if you are willing to put in the effort.  Grinding heroics for T9 gear is not much of an issue.  It just takes time and if you happen to be DPS without a pocket tank or healer it can take a fair bit of time.

Thing is, if you put in the time and effort you can get all T9 no problem.  Add to that using your professions.  If you use your professions to their maximum abilities you can make a lot of money.  With that money you can easily fill out many of the other spots in your gear.  264 items in many cases.  So lots of 264 gear, a full T9 set, T9 trinket and a greatness card trinket and you are decked out.

There is one thing about that.  You actually need to work for it.  Sure, if you make the effort it is easy to get to but you have to make an effort and not just a stand there and do nothing, it is a work your ass off effort.  That gear set up does not even consider that you will be getting frost badges as well.  That would go toward later updates.  To gear up like I just mentioned you need to do work and much more importantly you need to succeed at it.

The more I PvP the more I realize how insanely easy it is to get PvP gear.  PvP gear that is actually better then the PvE gear I mentioned (for it's intended use).  The big difference, well, let me rephrase that, the HUGE difference is that you do not even need to succeed at PvP to get any of that gear.  You can suck more then anyone has ever sucked at sucking before and still find yourself decked out in full PvP gear.  And if you only suck mildly you can even find yourself in full T10 gear in still less effort then was required to get T9 PvE gear.

PvP just gives away the gear basically.  It is so much easier to build a PvP set then a PvE set.  Let us compare.

To get top end Enchants:
PvE: You need to grind Ebon Hand and Sons of Hodir to exalted
PvP: You need honor

To get that reputation/honor:
PvE: You need to actually complete quests and actually kill things that grant reputation
PvP: You just need to be near people in battlegrounds when they kill things and even more if they win

To gear T9 gear:
PvE: You need to grind heroics and down bosses
PvP: You need to grind battleground for honor

Failure results of those:
PvE: If you do not down bosses, you get nothing
PvP: If you do not win or kill anything you still get honor

To get T10 gear:
PvE: You need to grind frost emblems and without raiding that means only 2 per day
PvP: You need to get arena points and rating as well as honor

Failure results of those:
PvE:  If you do not finish the dungeons you do not get anything, if you miss a day you get nothing
PvP: Even if you lose in the arena you get arena points, even if you suck at the battleground as long as the rest of your team doesn't you get arena points, if you miss a day at battlegrounds you lose out on only 25 arena points but you lose nothing for missing a day at arena

Bottom line is this.  To get geared as PvE you need to actually DO things and SUCCEED at them.  To get better gear in PvP you just need to fail.  You never even need to be decent at PvP to get geared in all T10 PvP gear while you need to at least be good enough to not get kicked from groups to get T9 PvE gear.

The fact might remain completely true that you need to have a lot more skill to be a good PvP player but that does not change the fact that you don't actually need any of that skill to become a geared PvP player.  Anyone that fails that badly at PvE will get left behind and kicked from groups and will never get to max gear level.

So to all those PvP players that love to blast PvE players for having an easier route as they only have to deal with scripted encounters you need to remember something.  The PvE player needs to actually kill that scripted encounter to get the chance at getting something that he still needs to get lucky enough to see dropped and then lucky enough to win a roll for and if he is really bad he will never get that chance because the group would kick him.  In PvP you do not have to be any good at anything.  You can run around slapping your hands on the keyboard doing nothing and if anyone kills anything you get honor and if the other players win you get even more honor.

Getting geared for PvP takes no skill what so ever.
Getting geared for PvE takes at least enough skill to fake it.

And remember, that PvE player that needed skill will still be way undergeraed when compared to the PvP player that slapped his hands on the keyboard like a spastic monkey. The mildly skilled PvE player will find himself in full T9 with a little bit of effort.  The skill less PvP player will find himself in full T10 gear.

Gearing up for PvP is way to easy.  Not that I mind really, made the trip to PvPing for me a lot easier.  Sad part is that now that I am doing it more I feel I am behind the curve for my gear.  I am working on top level gear with low level skill as opposed to being a top level PvE player in low level gear all because I have not gotten lucky with rolls.  Makes me wish that I could by PvE gear with honor and arena points.  It would make gearing up so much easier.

So remember, when it comes to gear, PvP is easy and takes no skill or luck and PvE is hard and takes both skill and lots of luck.

 PvP: So easy a caveman can do it.

I finally stepped into the Arena.

It was exciting.  Only 7 our of 10 men for ICC 10 continuation showed up so we decided to do some other things.  Helped a few gulidies get their Childrens week PvP stuff done and then decided to try an arena team out.  The two people I was with, a Shaman and a Mage are both very experienced in PvP and both have some solid Arena experience as well.  So basically they were carrying me and teaching me along the way.  We did 23 fights last night, won 10 and lost 13.  Not all that bad for a team that had a beginner, namely me, in it.

Add to the fact that many of the oft used things in Arena I do not have key bound and that lead to a ton of mistakes, bad timing and slow reaction.  Mind you, if you read my blog you know I know better, but it was a spur of the moment thing.  Trial by fire so to speak.  I am a reader, I read up on everything I can and try to absorb as much information as I can before doing something.  Then I do my best to learn by doing.

Kind of like how I learned to kite.  I read up as much as I could and then went around kiting anything I could find.  Practiced running and shooting while going around in circles in Dalaran shooting freezing arrows every 28 seconds.  Sure, none is really ideal but when the time came for me to kite I did not totally suck.  I only partially sucked and I've gotten better since.

I try to be prepared.  To be prepared you read, you watch and you practice.  Practice is somewhat easy.  You can play Arena techniques in battlegrounds.  Again, not perfect but it helps learn reaction time and shot placement.  Even if you only go at it thinking CC only and not damage so you can learn that end you might not help the battleground so much, but you learn.  Oh well, there are other people doing the job of winning the battleground and I am alliance anyway so I expect to lose 80%-90% of the time.

The issue with being prepared is the reading part when it comes to Arena.  I looked everywhere, high and low, under rocks even, and there is nothing to be found anywhere online that teaches anyone in Arena.  Sure there are some awesome sites like Arena Junkies which I spent a ton of time at and other places but all of them seem to have the approach that anyone asking a question has been doing arena for years already.

Someone asks a question that I had and I see a response like, "Well if you are facing an ABC then do this move and that move to start off and if you are facing and XYZ you will not have to worry about this so don't do that.".  I read it over and over again and really have no F'N clue what they are talking about.  I do not know what an ABC team is or an XYZ team is.  Sure, they might be common slang for people doing arena forever and know what it is but I am new and do not know. 

Why does everyone on any arena site I go to think that only people that know everything there is to know about arena go there?  I would love for an arena site to teach me as if I am a complete idiot.  Or at least have a guide that tells me the basics like an ABC team is these 3 classes and an XYZ team is made of these 3 classes.  I might be a quick learn and might not be an idiot, but sometimes it is nice to have things laid out for you when you want to get a foot into something you know nothing about.  Would it really be hard for them to have a beginners guide to Arena slag?  That is all I ask for.  I can gather the rest of the information reading the forums if only I knew what all the slag meant.

Sure, reading as much as I have I have figured out what some slag means by seeing them mention specific things that I know only certain classes can do.  I figured it out.  But why do I need to read 10 posts on ABC teams to try and figure out what an ABC team is.  I am making the effort to but wish they would just have an index that said and ABC team is this.

I think the reason so many people shy away from Arena is exactly that.  There is no helpful place to start out at.  There are no "Arena for Idiots" guides out there.  It is almost like they do not want anyone else joining them in Arena out of fear that person might end up beating them one day.

Either way, despite the fact that it seems no one in arena wants anyone else to join I am still reading and I am still learning and I will get better with the help of friends but it could have been so much easier and so much more enjoyable if the Arena community where more user friendly to new people.

Gearing up others?

Who hasn't helped someone gear up?  Or for that matter, who hasn't had others help them gear up?  It is part of the game.  Some people are further along then others.  What really matters is that people have some respect for the other people that play the game.  We recently had someone leave our guild because, "He didn't feel like gearing up others".

Lets examine that for a moment before I explain what happened after.  He did not want to gear up others?  I need to gear up.  I am lacking in gear big time lately being I can't seem to even roll anything double digits, nevertheless something large enough to win.  However, I still top the charts on DPS, I do the "little things" that most hunters would not even think to do for a second because it would hurt their DPS.  Like doing Rotface the other week when the tank that was kiting the ooze died I was instantly on the big ooze using my uber awesome kiting abilities.  Okay, I am exaggerating the uber awesome part, but I knew when it comes down to it Hunters are indeed capable kiters being they have the skills needed for it and while I am not in any way great at it, I was capable of doing it.  We ended up wiping anyway but the fact remains that someone stepped up.

So he left because he felt like "he didn't feel like gearing up others".  I am one of those others, I need gear and not to sound rude or anything but I damn well deserve to "get geared up" because I am decent at what I do and I help the team and I do everything within my own power to get better when I can.  But I can not beat 25 man content alone to get better gear.  Basically, whoever wins the roll just got helped by 24 people to gear up didn't they?

It is not just about me, we will move on, he has already been replaced with someone with 5 years experience in raiding.  The person that is replacing him is the original tank from my first guild.  He geared me up when I started.  He is what a team player is.  Sure, he is part of the reason we broke up that guild because he wanted to move along, but when he was there he had the right attitude.  If someone is willing to do all they can do then he had no problem helping them get better because helping them get better helps the team get better.  I don't care how great any one person thinks they are, they can not gear themselves up at the top level.  They need help.  So hearing "he didn't feel like gearing up others" really makes me a grumpy elf.

What makes this a kicker is the fact that he was the main tank.  The off tank would pass on stuff to "gear him up" because he was the main tank knowing that the second drop that comes he will get.  So we geared him up.  He didn't want to help others gear up when we all helped him gear up?  Selfish little fucking lowlife prick.  And that is the nicest way I can think of saying that.

Him, with his "gearing up" comment caused us to lose two decent up and coming players because he made them feel as if they were useless.  They were not undergeared either.  They were fine for ICC10 and close to ICC 25.  And with the solid DPS we have we can easily carry 2 or 3 4K-5K DPSers and not even sweat it.

He made people leave by being a prick, then left because he is a prick and then his friends followed because they agreed with him for being a prick.  One of those friends was the hunter that has won 2 marks and 3 other items in the last few weeks while I lose rolls left and right.  How was  he helping people gear up?  We geared his ass up and he left?  And I still whipped his ass on the DPS and total damage charts even if his gearscore was way higher then mine with all those upgrades.  Not to mention he was not capable of being a utility player.  He was one of those people that would have laughed if you asked him to kite.

I look at it this way.  Help people gear up and you help yourself.  But only if those people are team players, dedicated to success and willing to earn it.  Otherwise, you just get assholes that ride with you until you gear them up and then move along to another team that is more progressed.

Do you notice a trend here?  They are not leaving because they "do not want to gear up other people", they left because they wanted to have someone carry them to gear them up.

Odd that people that whine about carrying people moved to a group that is now going to have to carry them.  Some people are just so stupid it amazes me.  If you are going to complain about something at least make sure you are not the guilty party you are complaining about.

You might have read me bitching about not winning rolls and other people getting more gear and such but you do not see me going anywhere.  I know my time will come and I know as long as I do the best I can with what I have I can be an asset to my team.  That gives me the right to bitch.  They had no right to complain and they sure as shit had no right to leave because someone else might get some gear.  Someone else needing gear has to be the worst reason ever to leave a guild.

"I do not want to gear up other people" <-- Let me translate that for you.

"I am a complete and total prick and I only care about myself, I do not care if you need something, I won it last week and no longer need it so I am not going waste my time running it again so you can get it."

Maybe if he had not gotten all he needed it would still be around?  But like in real life, a user is a user and once they get what they needed from you they move on.

An all around interesting weekend.

I finished up all the childrens week stuff right away.  Did not take all that long, a few of the PvP things took time, but that is about it.  Had a friend pass me the flag in eye of the storm so I could get that part.  Died at the exact same time I returned the flag in warsong gulch and ended up getting Arathi Basin all star in route to getting that one.  Also, got my first ever Alterac Valley win as well. 

On a side note, maybe I missed something but I read everywhere how AV is alliance bias and alliance always wins.  I had never won that one before yesterday.  So I might either have the worlds worst luck or people on the forums are all retards.

Every holiday season I always see people listing things at high prices.  I was on early and greed got the best of me so I gave it a try.  The Tigule and Foror's Strawberry Ice Cream that was needed for an achievement and a quest was cheap and was also oddly absent from the auction house.  Cha Ching.  I bought a bunch of them, listed them for 10 gold each and sold 14 before someone started posting in trade chat to not get ripped off and to buy them from the vendor.  No biggie, I really did not think any would sell.  I wonder how stupid people can really be sometimes. 

I know I have over paid for things a few times from being lazy but those are things that would have required me going out and hunting them down.  They would take an effort and the price was cheap enough (even if expensive) to convince me not to make the effort.  This case is just a case of people being both lazy and stupid.  The gnome that sold them is in between the inn and mail box in stormwind.  The auction house is only a 3 second walk from there.  So I made 140 gold because people did not want to waste a 3 second walk.  Have to love those lazy and stupid people.

Over all I had an achievement filled weekend again.  I am starting to run out of achievements to do.  Got all the requirements for For The Children done although I never got to do the northrend part as that quest does not show for me.  So no pet wolvar for me. I am quite sad.  I got a slew of PvP ones such as capping the flag in Eye which I had never done before, and the previous mentioned ones.  I went crazy with BC raids this weekend too collecting my firsts for Mount Hyjal, Sunwell Plateau, Magtheridon's Lair and Gruul's Lair.

I'll post part two if my interesting weekend later being that is more of a grumpy post and does not fit well with all these fun achievements.