It looks like we will be getting flying in warlords of draenor after an amazingly fast turn around from "we will not be adding fight in this or future expansions" to "here is what you need to do to get flight".
My personal opinion is that earning flight in such a way that you need to do something to get it is better than just paying some gold fee and flying. While I might think some of the requirements are a little much, at least the option is now there for the people that want it, or soon will be.
Before I get into what you need to do to get flying I will point out that flying will not, repeat, not be coming with the release of 6.2 but in a future, yet unknown, time with 6.2.x. We also know that when flying is added, if you have the achievement to activate it, it will be account wide. This means you only need to go through this process on one character which is awesome.
Furthermore, once flying is activated any character on draenor at level 90 or above will be able to fly. Yes, this even means the alts you plan on leveling later will be able to fly while they are leveling. Not bad if you ask me and more than I wanted personally. I would have been happy with flying at 100 only, but enough of that, lets move on to what you need to do to get flying.
[Draenor Pathfinder]:
A new achievement is being added in 6.2 titled Draenor Pathfinder which is a meta achievement. In 6.2 it will reward, fittingly enough, a flying mount. At a later date anyone with this achievement will be given the ability to fly on draenor on that and all other characters level 90 and up that are on draenor.
The following achievements are what will be needed to get the meta achievement to unlock flight.
Loremaster of Draenor (A) / Loremaster of Draenor (H):
While it would be a space, and time, prohibitive thing to post all of which you need to do to get the loremaster achievements I will try to give some helpful advice to those that never finished the zones while questing and now wish to go back and do so.
If you open your map (M by default) you can check easily to see your progress toward loremaster of that specific zone. If your map does now show the quests in that zone when you open it that means one of two things. It is full screen, which you can hit the inward arrow in the upper right hand corner of the map to shrink it, or you have the quest details window closed, which you can open by clicking the arrow in the lower right hand corner of the map.
Looking at the quest tracker details you will see at the top your progress toward loremaster of that specific zone, it might say something like 6 / 9. This means that there are three major story lines in that zone you have yet to compete as you only have 6 of the 9 major story lines in that zone done.
If you are like me, or many others in game, that might have forgotten where you left off in a zone and have no idea where to pick up where you left off, go back to your map (M by default). Open your map to full screen for easier viewing, but its not needed, and look for an exclamation point on the map somewhere. You might over look at at first but any major story line in a zone will have their quest marker exclamation point on your map. This will give you the direction you need to go to pick up the story lines you might have missed.
Now go and poke 12 saberon with a stick, collect 14 stinky socks, free 6 goblins that somehow tapped themselves in their own cages and collect the pinky finger from hubba bubba the pink ogre that has been terrorizing the area while dancing around in a tutu singing I feel pretty. Once you are done with all said quests, or whichever other ones they send you on, and compete the three major story lines you needed, the zone achievement pop up.
Being Loremaster of draenor happens to be a meta achievement itself that asks you to complete all the major story lines in each zone, you will have to do this for every zone to get the Loremaster of Draenor achievement.
Explore Draenor:
This achievement is easy enough. It requires nothing more of you than just spending a little time running around and uncovering all part of the map for every zone on Draenor. It is something you could do over the course of a lazy day or while waiting in queue. You probably discovered most of the zones just from completing the loremaster part of the meta achievement we are aiming for.
If you are missing a part of the map and do not notice any part of it that is still shaded visit a site like wowhead and check the individual achievement. Usually there are great people there that will tell you which places to go to so you can get credit for that individual area. For me there was one part of talador I needed to go back for as no quest ever had me pass through it. All other parts I got through standard exploration and questing while leveling and doing loremaster.
This part of the achievement should take no time at all and little effort. Enjoy exploring.
Grand Treasure Hunter:
The grand treasure hunter achievement might say 200 treasures needed but you only need to find 100 to get what you need to activate flying. But while you are out and about you might as well go and get as many as possible.
While nothing you gather will be great by any means most things can be sold for a fair sum of gold considering the minimal amount of effort you have to put into collecting them. There are also some goodies you might like and garrison resources to gather.
If you are one of those people that hate jumping puzzles, and from the looks of it there are a lot of you, no worries what so ever. You can easily get 100 treasures without ever leaving the safety and comfort of having your own two feet, or hooves, on the ground at any given time.
For this achievement I suggest you download an addon called Handy Notes and then get the addition to it for draenor treasures. With that installed you will have 100 treasures and not even notice you have done it.
If you pick this up and grab things while questing and while exploring, you will have the 100 with absolutely no additional effort on your part. Being I leveled with Handy Notes active on all my characters not only did I level faster thanks to the experience of finding treasures but I was close to having 100 treasures found just while leveling. Handy notes just makes it too easy.
But word of advice, if you really hate jumping stuff, stay out of nagrand, that place is a nightmare for getting some of these treasures if you don't already know how to get to them and could even be a nightmare if you do know how to get to them. ~mumbles something about that damn tree he kept missing with the kite~
Securing Draenor (A) / Securing Draenor (H):
In a clear cut case of easier said than done there is the requirement of doing all the original apexis dailies once each. There are 12 dailies in total but the problem with them is that they are on a random generated system which could mean it will take you 12 days to do it, or 48 days to do it, depending on the random number generator.
I must say I have always been against any content that is based on random so needless to say I would not mind at all if they removed this as part of the meta achievement even if I have it already. I still feel bad for the people that don't and judging by the number of people who have that achievement posted on MMOC it seems like extremely few have done this.
I hear that currently the pit daily never shows up but when I did it at the start of the expansion it was the pit nearly every single day. I recall it being 8 days in a row, then after two days of different ones it was 6 days in a row again. See, this is exactly why I hate the randomly generated content. No rhyme or reason to it.
My suggestion would be to check to see which ones you have done and look at the table in your garrison each and every day to see if one of the ones you need is there. If it is, do it. Do not wait, do not say I will do it tomorrow, do not put it off. If you need it, do it, because with a random system if you don't it is possible you will not see it again for a month or longer.
Here is to hoping that blizzard does what they did with the profession vendors and fixes it so that it will cycle thought all of them so at worst it would take 12 days, but do not hold your breath for that to happen.
UPDATE: I have just been informed that the missives do work so just buy the missives at your garrison for 200 resources each and knock them all out. This will make it insanely easy to finish.
Three 6.2 Reputations at Revered:
Order of the Awakened, The Saberstalkers, and Hand of the Prophet for alliance, Vol'jin's Headhunters for the horde are the new factions that you will need to get to revered to finish off the achievements needed to open up flight once it is added.
Being you only need to get to revered it will be a lot easier than if you had to do exalted. A total of 21,000 reputation is needed to get to revered which is, of course, better than the 42000 needed to get to exalted.
I suggest if you want to speed this along that you have a level 3 trading post in your garrison as it increases reputation gained. Any other boosts you can tag on, such as being a human or the darkmoon fair buff, will make this a little bit faster as well, but the level 3 trading post should be something everyone can do not limited to a race or timed event. So make sure you have it if you want to speed this along.
How to get reputations:
Each faction tied reputation has a set of daily quests you can do that will offer you either 3 or 4 quests giving up to a total of 1250 reputation if you do them. This can very well be used as the slow way to work toward getting all three of the factions to revered. Also the new additions to the garrison campaign can award some reputation with these faction alined reputations so make sure to do those weekly on the character you are working the reputations on.
For the awakened there is a daily quest that awards 1500 reputation, which can be boosted by the trading post to 1800 and for the saberstalkers there is a weekly quest for 3500 which could be boosted by the trading post to 4200, there is also a chance you might get a daily as well, but it is not every day. In addition the saberstalkers reputation can also be boosted by kills in select areas 30 for common mobs and 600 for rare elites.
There is also a new mission you can get from your harbor that rewards Medallion of the Legion, which will give you 1000 reputation with all factions on Draenor. The beauty of this is that it is not soulbound, so if you have the gold, or enough alts, you can just buy, or collect, 21 of these and never need to grind even one single reputation. You will be all done with these and these along. Even if you do not do it with all of these, these will help along with your effort to get to revered with all three.
One thing of note, if you are going to use these, they do benefit from the trading post buff, meaning you get 1200 per faction instead of 1000, but you must actually be in draenor when you use it to benefit from the trading post buff as the buff only works on draenor. It is also reported that some rares could drop these medallions. If that is the case it is extremely possible you can grind all three factions not only to revered but to exalted in the first days of the release of 6.2. I shall be one of these fools that intends to do just that and with all my alts and medallions coming in, I do not see this taking long at all.
Conclusion:
As you can see, it will not be hard to get flying, but you will need to earn it. It is no longer as simple as paying a few gold and taking to the air. I don't know about you but I kind of like that. There is nothing hard about any of these requirements and there is nothing overly time consuming, at least if you are currently playing and not trying to catch up months from now, which I can see as being annoying later on playing catch up to everyone else that is flying.
If you are behind and need to do it, this is my suggested path.
Step 1: Do the lorematster achievement which will take no more than a few hours at most at max level even if you have only done a little or no questing previously. Finish off the treasure gathering and exploring while doing loremaster, which means no additional time spent on those at all.
Step 2: Check the daily table in your garrison every day, do the mission if you need that one. Or just buy the missive for it and get it done.
Step 3: When 6.2 comes out, to those that do not like to grind or just so you do not burn yourself as 6.2 is not adding flying yet, I say take your time. Seriously, take your time. Do the dailies when you wish to, send all the medallions you come across to your main, and let the reputations build up on their own. With a trading post level 3, a few dailies for each faction and a few medallions along the way you will be to revered with all three and never even need to grind anything at all.
Step 4: When 6.2.x comes out. Congratulations everyone, you are now ready to fly. Enjoy, we earned this.
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Anon, Grumpy's former Guild Leader:
ReplyDeleteYes, we will have earned it, but not only in terms of game play but in terms of a public revolt by the player base. That shows to me that something is badly wrong with Blizzard, and while I do appreciate the course reversal on flying in Draenor and can live with the requirements set forth for it; I am still not happy about the state of the game.
I need to see a demonstration of this vision I keep hearing about. One that satisfies my hopes for the company and the game, not one in which things are increasingly removed, deleted and made irrelevant. Rather much instead, I want to see this as the beginning of the restoration of WoW as a wide open game with many paths to fun. I hope Blizzard can deliver on that. I can not say I believe that they will, but hope springs eternal in the human breast, don'cha know.
In regards to your topic of the post, thank you for such a quick and easy guide to it, especially about the reputations to come. That will be most helpful as a reminder of what all is needed to be done to regain the sky. You know, I was actually expecting this from you...just because you are such a terrible selfish person, uhuh... /sarc (see below "Are You a Selfish Player?" for reference).
I am willing to bet that they had a substantial number of people cancel their subscriptions with flight as the reason why which changed their mind as money talks. They won the battle, not people like me complaining on a blog. We owe them our gratitude.
DeleteIf blizzard is going to keep talking about their vision I agree, we are going to need more than just "trust me" because they have already used up all the trust people had in them. Next time they talk about a vision it better be there, now, not coming in 5 years.
For someone like you with a lot of alts, just make sure you have 3K (I think) garrison resources on all of them to start the shipyard and get some ships and maybe you can get all the reps just from missions. Unlikely, but possible.
And yes, I am being selfish again, I am good at it. ;)
you can buy missives for "securing draenor" using garrison resources. that removes the randomness.
ReplyDeleteI am not aware of any limiter other than garrison resources, so you could probably do them all in one day if you really wanted to.
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I updated my post to reflect that. I was told on the PTR it was not working. Maybe they plan to stop you from being able to do that? Might have to check it out. If that is the case, it is a get it done now thing.
DeleteI don't touch the PTR, so only know what's on live.
DeleteI did 1 daily apexis quest yesterday, and used 1 missive. Then I got the "securing draenor" achievement.
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regards,
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I got a free week of WoW in an email from Blizz (good timing!) so I actually got the chance to try the missives on live. I never bothered doing apexis missions prior to quitting in December, so my slate was clean. I Just did darktide roost and socrethar's rise and they are checked now, so they for sure work at the moment.
DeleteAwesome, get them done now.
DeleteAnd I would not put it past blizzard to be smart enough with marketing to send that free week to a lot of people while they are all happy with the good news.
I'm ready for those rep grinds! The last thing I needed was to complete Assault on the Pit as I could never find a group. I hoped this morning there would be groups and there were.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad to read that there will be at least some alternate to just a grind with the Medallion of the Legion.
Lets just hope they keep dropping off rares at a decent rate like they do on the PTR and getting to exalted can be easily done in one day on the weekend.
Deletethat's ok, but sincerely, I rather pay gold. I don't have the time nor the ability these days to search for rares, do complete story lines, fight off elite 100's, do any type of raiding or pvp or dungeons.
ReplyDeleteYour "I'm elite cuz I can do these things" is beyond me. these days. Just let me pay my gold and I will be happy.
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Gold is easier, sure, because it is something we already have. There is no effort needed to be put into it. Blizzard wanted to compromise and give us flying, but did not want to give it to us for free, so to speak, but using something we already have on hand, meaning gold.
DeleteThere is nothing elite about doing quests or running around the world exploring and killing a few mobs.
Think of it this way, if you do all the required things for this achievement, the quests, the kills, and so forth, you might gain 20K gold while doing it all. So effectively it is like blizzard saying they are charging 20K gold for flying. But instead of letting you use 20K you already have sitting around, you need to earn a fresh 20K from doing these things.
As I said, there is no "elite because I can do this" about it. The beauty of what they ask us to do is none of it takes any skill of any sort to do. All it takes is some times. Nothing more.
I agree. I simply haven't got the time to invest in all this nittering around and running in circles. I'd love to have the option to just pay some extraordinary amount of gold and have my darn flying. It's okay, though. When the next EP rolls I'm sure this list of requirements will diminish or disappear, altogether.
DeleteTime concerns are most definitely an legitimate concern for many and I hope they take that into consideration when they do it next expansion.
DeletePeople just want to play, they do not want to work. Flying has been in game for such a long time and it has been free for such a long time (so to speak) that people just want what they had to stay the same and I can't say I blame them. I actually agree. Would love to see flight just be there when we hit max level and be done with the whole conversation.
wowhead added a tool that checks your achievement progress
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That makes it so simple to see what you need to get done. I have it all done already, have for a long time, but for people missing things, that is awesome.
DeleteThanks for the guide. Wowhead has one as well that regardsanon mentioned.
ReplyDeleteThe Pit is the only one that doesn't have a missive you can buy (not sure why...) Anyway, it was up again today. As a hunter, I've been soloing the Pit since I had 630 or so iLvL. So if you need a group, just find a hunter/DK/warlock or something.
Wonder why the pit is not one of the missives. Maybe that is why everyone is saying they can not get the pit one, because that is the only one they missed from the actual quests. I don't know if the put has been an actual quest recently myself because it has been a while since I actually did them with any regularity.
DeleteI actually dread the coming of 6.2. I mean I want it to come, but my server is overpopulated and having everything new in Tanaan will mean several things - the server will have long queues and crashes the first week or more, there will be no mobs to kill, there will be no nodes to farm, there will be several people camping different spots for different things, if there are quest objectives we won't be able to pick them up and so on. And there's a high possibility we won't be able to access our garrisons, it still happens every now and then. Ugh. I want the patch but I don't want the frustration :<
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling even the over populated servers are not going to be as bad as you expect. Sure there will be some issues, but blizzard has lost so many subs and this patch is offering nothing (outside of a raid) to bring people back. I do not expect it to be horrible like on release day.
DeleteI do feel your pain however. I like smaller servers for that very reason. I hate having to quest with a million other people. Most people I talk to seem to agree. They do not like packed areas, they do not like waiting on mob respawns, they do not like fighting over rares, etc. Which makes me wonder, if no one in the game likes packed areas, why did they ever add CRZ?
Because some people complained it felt lonely. And this is why we won't get player housing, because people complained they feel lonely.
DeleteBut we got garrisons and that is basically player housing, just without the customization that all the other games have.
DeleteLeveling in today's day and age is supposed to be lonely. It is not like when you or I leveled where we actually needed other people around us. We needed them for some group quests, we needed them for dungeons, we just needed the interaction. Now leveling is so streamlined you leave a zone less than an hour after entering it, there is no time to make friendships so other people being around just slow you down and annoy you. Well, maybe not you, but they do annoy me.
Awesome work with the guide. I will include it in my blog list of guides if you don't mind.
ReplyDeleteGo for it. Glad you like it.
DeleteAmazing hints. I did almost everything before Patch 6 reputations, but my main was only halfway through Securing Draenor. I completely didn't pay attention for mission contracts you can buy and forgot about them, using the Great Random table. Will do.
ReplyDeleteI got my securing draenor from the missions table at random myself. Took a while, but they all appear sooner or later. Some really really later it seems. lol
DeleteThis is a great guide Grumpy. If I didn't already have all the achievements that we can do already I would have loved having this guide. Might have to save it on my blog somewhere so if people ask they can find it easily.
ReplyDeleteI think I often write these things just so when people ask me I have something to look back on. ;)
DeleteYeah, I too finished this as soon as possible. Had to wait for the last one for securing draenor to spawn, which did take about 6 weeks after release, but had ones like treasure hunter (the 200 version) and loremaster finished 11/13/14, as in the day of release.
I'd think most active players had them all done already, but I hope for this does help the others. And from listening to people in my guild it seems that everyone not named me fits into the "others" category.
Yeap, I was the only one that had all these achievements when they announced it. Surprised the hell out of me. I figured with everyone saying there was nothing to do that they actually did something. Apparently they didn't. lol
Sorry, but this is about ridiculous. Thanks for another shafting, blizz.
ReplyDeleteAnd it seems now that next expansion will follow the same model sadly.
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