I was reading a post on the forums where someone was complaining about LFR, as if it were some sort of new thing that they just noticed, and saying that LFR creates the feeling of entitlement. At least that is what I believe he was trying to convey as his central message.
The reasoning for this post is that I am not sure if I agree with him. I am either part of the people that feel entitled to more from LFR, because I do actually feel that way, or I am the type of person that believes LFR is fine for what it does, because I feel that way too.
I guess I feel both ways depending on who's perspective I am looking at it from. On the grand scale of things looking at the game as a whole I think the LFR is absolutely fine. I also do not see it being what he sees it being, a place where people go to demand more.
His argument is that the LFR only crowd wants the "ahead of the curve" achievement, they want the real tier sets, they want mounts, they want to do achievements, they feel entitled to it all.
I don't see it that way. I see it as the people who actually want these things use the LFR as the tool it was intended to be and springboard to a higher level once they are able using the new group finder system or finding a guild on their server that is just starting progression on normal modes or is not very far in.
Thanks to the change of flexible if they actually "try" to do well they can make the adjustment from LFR to really raiding easily enough. Carrying a noob, for lack of a better word, that can follow instructions and does a fair job is not a problem at all and they are no longer locked out because the group already has their 10 people or 25 people. They can join and contribute and learn to get better.
See, what I am getting at is that the people who actually do want those achievements, those titles, those mounts, they can use the LFR as a springboard to work their way toward it. I personally can not say I have seen people asking for any of the things he has suggested in LFR. Not even once.
However on the flip side, I do believe there is a feeling of entitlement. At least from my perspective because I can say I feel it. Yes, I feel entitled to more from LFR. Then again, I am not the one that the LFR was created for, so that could be the reason for that.
I am not doing the LFR on alts this expansion. I would like to get a dozen rings just like I did a dozen cloaks last expansion, but without valor which was a huge motivator to get me to do it, because even if I did not get the drops I wanted I still gained some currency that could get me some decent gear otherwise, I have no desire to step foot into LFR without valor and valor gear, simple as that. Not even a legendary ring is enough bait for me.
Why is that? Because the gear sucks balls, if you will excuse me being extremely rude about it. 640 gear and 655 gear? No thank you. I need to do it each week every week on alts not geared enough to pug, or because I would rather just not pug because their gear sucks or I suck at them (like on my rogue).
Without valor there as the consolation prize that I can use to gear up my alts to be closer to raid ready where my main is currently raiding LFR has lost all of its draw for me. I believe this is working as intended. Not a shot at blizzard either saying that. They said they wanted to make actual raiders feel as if there were no reason to run LFR and, for me at least, they have done exactly that. Kudos to blizzard on a job well done.
But that is why I say I feel entitled. If I am going to run LFR I want to get gear that is raid ready. I do not want garbage 640 and 655 gear. It should at least drop valor which in turn I could use to buy 685 gear so my alts can keep up with my main, just like they always have since I started playing.
So this guys entire argument is wrong, at least as I see it. He was stressing that the LFR only players were feeling entitled to these things. I just do not see it. Never have. I can not recall one time ever seeing an LFR only player saying they should get more from LFR. The only people, or person in the case of me, that feels any entitlement to better things from LFR are the people that have already passed it. The ones that raid at a higher level.
So in effect, he made a post complaining about entitlement in the LFR when in fact the entitlement was coming from people already doing normals or more so heroic and especially mythic. We people, the ones that play well past the LFR level with organized groups, we are the ones that would like to see more come from the LFR. The LFR only people are happy with it because that is all they do so they do not want, or need, more. This is how I believe it to be based on my own feelings and that of which I read around other place, or maybe it is just me?
Either way, I do not agree with him. LFR is not creating entitlement. Not even in the slightest. It is making the people that want things move up from there and it is making the people like me not do it because it does not offer gear on the scale I am used to receiving. Neither of us are really feeling a sense of entitlement. We are both just seeing LFR for what it is. Them, a starting point, me, something that is a waste of time.
Do you think LFR is creating a generation of warcraft players that think everything should be handed to them like this guy suggests? I don't think so.
As a matter of fact, I think the LFR is in the best place it has ever been since it was introduced. Sure the toxic players still make it hell sometimes and extremely bad groups can still make it a very unfun experience, but the LFR is in the best place it has ever been as I see it.
He wants the LFR to drop no loot at all, I would love to see it drop better loot for my alts, we are both wrong. It is just fine. Doesn't mean we have to like it... it wasn't made for us. How can some people still not see that?
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