To those that do not know the expression of the holy trinity is mean a tank, a healer and a damage dealer(s) working together. The holy trinity is the reason there are waits for the dungeon finder and the looking for raid. Because the game is assembling the group based on a predetermined holy trinity. The holy trinity is the reason there are no waits for scenarios because the trinity is not required for them. The holy trinity is also to blame for many other small things, like why some healers hate doing dailies because they do not like having an offspec, as they are healers and that is what they do. Things like that.
So what if the Holy Trinity did not exist. It would surely make for an interesting new world of game play, one that would possibly be better than what we have now.
Some people believe that if there were no holy trinity that the control role of tank and the support role of healer would be gone but that is not true. Even without the holy trinity there would still need to be someone taking the hits and positioning the boss and there would still be people that would be needed to help with healing.
The one difference with having no holy trinity would be that anyone could do the tanking and anyone can do the healing. As a mater of fact, everyone would, even if they did not want to, just by doing their role of dealing damage, which is the only true role in the trinityless group. See scenarios for an example.
For a system like this to work you would need all classes to have some sort of defensive cooldowns and the switch to active mitigation this expansion makes for the perfect stepping stone to add just that.
All classes could easily have a few abilities that would be added that they could use to tank, so to speak, if and when their turn came to do such. You would also need all classes to have healing of some sort and that would be a little harder to manage but could easily be done by having all damage dealing abilities also heal, whether it be the user it heals or the most needy target the heal bounces to, along with some direct healing spells, but they would not be as powerful as the direct healing spells as we currently know them.
Besides giving all classes some sort of healing capabilities and some sort of active mitigation there would need to be some other fundamental changes to the game such as the removal of dodge and parry and spirit on gear. Dodge and parry would not longer be needed as there are no longer tanks in game that would stack them. Same would go for spirit which is considered a healer stat and without dedicated healers there would be no need for a dedicated healing stat.
With the avoidance removed from tank gear there would need to be a change to how strength, agility and intellect work. All of those, depending on variables of their class, would offer dodge in a percentage. This would give some passive avoidance to all classes in one way or another.
There would then be three types of fights and how the boss would be handled. The life fight, where the boss will always attack the person with the highest life. The stationary fight, where the boss will stand in set positions and main attack whichever is the closest target. The threat fight where the boss will attack the person with the highest threat.
The life fight would be pretty straight forward, if you have the highest total life you get attacked. When you no longer have the highest life total it will move to the next person. When the boss is on you, you use your active mitigation. Simple enough. There would also need to be some sort of timer so the boss did not just ping pong around forever. When the boss switches to a new target with the highest life he will stay focused on them for 20 seconds no matter what. It can not be taunted off or distracted, it is on that target for 20 seconds or until that target dies and then moves to the next target with the highest life.
The stationary fight would be where a boss does not move, you know the ones I am talking about, there are many of them. In that case, it will always attack the target closest to it. Simple enough and for some groups they might even decide on making a tank type crew that will move in and out and rotate the hits. As there is no holy trinity any longer you could not have one dedicated tank as there would never be enough heals to keep a dedicated tank up but a rotating crew should do just fine. On fights like this if there is no one within melee one player will be grabbed randomly and dragged into melee so the boss has someone to attack. And unless that person has other people to switch with, they are dead. This will keep groups from just going all ranged and avoiding the need for a melee taking damage to begin with. Someone must always be getting hit, no matter what.
The threat fight would be one of the more interesting ones to deal with in groups because the boss will go after whoever has the most threat. Again, it would have to have a lock on, like with the life fight, so it does not ping pong, but only of 6 seconds this time because the threat fight will be about threat and the idea would be to taunt off of others and to dump threat. So all classes would have a taunt now, to put them on top of the threat meters and all classes would have an aggro dump to get it off of them. You could handle the fight just winging it with whoever has the most threat, or you could control it with taunts and dumps, to try and keep the boss in a position you want him in. The aggro dump all classes have would be a new ability and not like a hunters feign death. It would be a charge up ability that once you reach a set number, lets call it three times your total life in damage taken, you can use it to dump all threat.
Many people argue that dungeons and raids can not work without the holy trinity but I do not agree. I think it is an interesting what if with potential.
There is another side effect to the what if of no holy trinity. PvP would be completely different. If all classes were capable of taking care of themselves to some degree meaning decreasing damage taken and some light heals, and there were no dedicated healer, it would be a lot easier to balance the classes.
I don't know how more seasoned player vs player people see it but from my limited experience it is healing the makes things unbalanced. If everyone were responsible for their own healing and all other direct heals that others could pass along were not huge, it would mean the battle would be more about who does best and not who has the most healers or who is better at focusing them down.
The removal of the holy trinity for PvE could be the best thing to come to the PvP world ever, at least as I see it. How is that for a what if? Maybe some people more versed in PvP could imagine what would happen in their side of the game with the holy trinity gone.
What if there were no holy trinity? Would it really make PvP easier to balance? Would it completely solve any issue with wait times for random content? Would it be a boon or a bane to the game? What if you logged in tomorrow and the holy trinity were gone?
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