No, this is not me getting all grumpy with the expansion, this is about the standard gripes that come with a new expansion and usually they have more to do with the players, not the game. So lets get our grump on and start complaining.
This is a two part gripe. Part 1, why does everyone feel the need to stand on top of quest givers with their mount? Are they aware you can actually talk to the quest giver from a fair distance away so you do not obstruct others from talking to them as well?
I know many times I have run up to a quest giver and was on top of them and side stepped or back stepped a little so I was not covering them. It is common courtesy. Just because you are playing a video game does not mean you need to be a jerk about it. It is not hard, one step in any direction and the next person can click the quest giver no problem.
Part 2, why does everyone feel the need to get on the biggest mount they own all the time? Perhaps it is just a matter of preference but I prefer smaller mounts, the smaller the better. While I do understand it could very well be a preference thing I always have the feeling that people like being on the biggest mounts they own because they know you can obstruct more people trying to do things, see things, or interact with things.
New expansions bring a lot of people out into the world and that means a lot more people on huge mounts and standing on quest givers with them. I hate them all, every single jerk in the game that thinks it is okay to stand on a quest giver with a mount so big it looks like it could eat them for lunch and still want more afterwards.
The initial day is always awesome when you are ahead of the pack like I was. The world was mine and I got spoiled by it. Thousands of herbs all to myself and I picked every damn one of them. It is the only reason I keep herbalism on my main even if I want to switch it to engineering. Just because I like to have something else to do while leveling or just going around doing my thing. My hunters are always one gathering and one crafting profession with the exception of one that is a double gatherer and one that is a double crafter.
Before I start to complain I need to ask if I am the only person that does this. If I am flying around and land for a node and see someone fighting over it I wait until they are done fighting, if they do not pick/mine it, then I go for it. Otherwise I believe if someone is fighting on or really close to a node, they are fighting for that node. Common courtesy as I said, I believe that is it. Am I the only person that does that? Sure seems so.
I've seen it happen a million times, more so when the expansion is new, I go to grab something, get attacked and someone comes and picks the herb from under my feet. Not exaggerating. I am actually standing on it and they pick it. Good thing for me that 90% of the time I still get it. If I see them coming I just stop fighting and pick it, being a hunter I have that option being I have a pet, for most they do not have that option, they lost the node.
Monkey See Monkey Do:
I can understand where it comes from and I do it myself. When someone got the archeology polearm and I saw it I said I had to get that for my druid to level with and kept digging until I got it. Lucky that I got it sooner than later, on my 6th solve.
The thing is, sometimes it goes to far. Like the disc mount. There were like 3 people, myself being one, on my server with it one day, people started asking where they get it and then 24 hours later there are 100s of people floating around on it.
I can see wanting something new, I can see wanting to show you have it, I can see the desire to collect things, but people, draw the line. When there are a few people on a mount it is unique, when 35 of the 40 people in the sha raid are riding them it loses its uniqueness.
At least there is one good thing about this one example. It is a small mount. Have to love that part of it.
It is the whole "how did you do that", "where did you get that", "help me do that too" that starts to get annoying. The expansion just started, you do not need to drop everything to play monkey see monkey do. Look it up, figure out how to do it on your own and you will have roughly 2 years to get it done. Why are you rushing to mimic something that is not even unique anymore?
My biggest gripe is the lack of common courtesy with the people that are all money see monkey do. I've been questioned, harped on, pestered, and bugged for hours already asking me this question that question and the other question from people I do not even know. Look it up people.
I am trying to play the game too just like you and I looked it up and I am no one special so if I can do it you can do it. I do not mind helping you, I will answer any question you might have even if I do not know you, but at some point you have to look things up for yourself. I do not have (GM) next to my name, which means my time is my time and I do not work for you as your personal information dispenser because you saw me on a mount and want to mimic me by getting it.
I'll be the first to say I have not seen any of these yet. Yet being the operative word there. I've heard stories from some of my friends that play that make me wonder what is wrong with people.
A tank friend, day 1, enters a heroic. The game just came out remember. He gets in and tells people this is his first run, he just hit 90 and doesn't know the lay out yet. So instead of working with him or understanding, they kick him, no words said. He didn't even get to do one pull. They did not judge him on his skill, the just kicked because he said he was a fresh 90 that had never done it. Being a fresh 90 that has never done it on day one should be considered normal not kickable. Heck, even a year from now if someone says they just hit 90 and it is their first time that is no reason to kick them.
Someone in my guild saw one of the groups he was in go through 5 damage dealers when he was healing. They kept kicking people for doing under 30K. Is 30K the new bare minimum in these? I don't even know. If so, I should have been kicked more than a few times myself. More so on my first runs when I was learning the fights, heck, I am still trying to get into the grove and do under 30K half the fights. I am doing less at 90 than I did at 85, but I know gear will solve that. Does it mean I should be kicked? No.
Like I said, I have not had any problems in the runs I have been in. But hearing the others tell them I remember them from the beginning of cataclysm when I did see them, I hate those people.
I would chalk this up to another common courtesy thing. Unless there is a real reason to kick someone, like a resto druid trying to heal in feral gear or a damage dealer doing 8K DPS and you actually need that extra damage because the group as a whole is not great, have some common courtesy and let it go. It is the beginning of the expansion and a lot of people are new to the dungeons and quite lost and totally under geared. Even having done them all there are still none I feel comfortable in yet.
Seriously, what is expected in a dungeon now? Is it really 30K, if so I have never had a good group yet. I am always #1 or #2 and usually when I am #2 the tank is #1 and I only break 30K half the time and on trash packs. I can't believe people are getting kicked for doing less than that. I would have had to kick every single person except one that was in any group as a damage dealer so far this expansion if I went by that rule.
I love to quest, don't get me wrong, I just hate the people that quest in the area I am in. There is no common courtesy in the game at all. Need to get some amber, go up to a tree and click on it and start attacking the bugs just to see someone swoop down and steal it? Happens all the time, to everyone.
Same as I said with nodes, if someone is fighting on it, let them have it. What is so freaking hard about that? Yes, the spawn rate is annoyingly slow. You could spend more time trying to find those few ambers than doing all the other quest combined. Let the person fighting for it have it.
It is another case of I think I am the only person that when I see something, if I see someone fighting near it, I move on to something else. It seems everyone would rather steal the quest item from another person than clear a path themselves.
I did have some fun with it yesterday however. A paladin was flying over me and twice when I clicked the amber and MDed the bugs to my pet he was swooping down to grab it and twice I took it before he did. I said, in say, go find your own. He said, why work when I can get you to do the work for me. I said, I'm a hunter, it won't work, find another target if you want to be a jerk about it. I should have reported him. Not sure if it was an offense that is actionable, but it should be. Swooping down and stealing quest items from someone that just cleared them out is bad style, bad manners and shows a complete lack of common courtesy. If every person like that would quit the game tomorrow the game would be a better place.
That is what it all boils down to in every example and that is my biggest gripe with the new expansion so far. Even bigger than the RNG hating me, sooner or later I will get my gear. My biggest gripe has nothing to do with the game but the people that play it. The complete and total lack of common courtesy by the majority of players is astounding.
I might not be an angel by any definition of the word, but I would like to believe that I attempt to play the game the way I want others around me to play it. I will not take a node or quest item from someone because I would not want them to take it from me. I will not kick someone just because they are lower than expected unless we actually needed someone better because I would not want to be kicked for the same reason unless I actually deserved it. I would not harp on people asking them to hold my hand on doing little things to get cosmetic items that I could just as easily look up myself and do it later.
Oddly enough, my biggest gripes so far with mists have nothing to do with mists at all. The game is good, the players suck.
First thoughts on Patch 6.1 - I think this pretty much covers it:
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