tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post5766793222780963717..comments2024-03-27T07:57:48.010-04:00Comments on The Grumpy Elf: Boosting For ProfessionsTheGrumpyElfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-45509036515326502822014-03-10T06:37:32.002-04:002014-03-10T06:37:32.002-04:00Off-topic.
Grumpy, you said you were going to PVP...Off-topic.<br /><br />Grumpy, you said you were going to PVP this season. How is it going? Just wondering.<br />PVP anonhttp://nowhere.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-76258613093676836272014-03-06T16:03:55.225-05:002014-03-06T16:03:55.225-05:00at ilvl 476 - 80 recipes and at 458 there are 82 r...at ilvl 476 - 80 recipes and at 458 there are 82 recipes. sucks how random they are. I got them all listed on my blog. Now it is making harden leather so I can make 2 full sets of the 553 (I think that 's it) belt and pants. 1 mail and 1 leather. 28 Harden Leather for the pants and 21 Harden leather for the belts. Oh well. the daily grind goes on. :) -abhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14899567485973250660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-43034653533676726912014-03-06T12:50:14.758-05:002014-03-06T12:50:14.758-05:00I'm being very careful not to. :)
As a bit o...I'm being very careful not to. :)<br /><br />As a bit of a follow-up to that I checked yesterday and since leveling my new LW (who's still discovering recipes from the daily craft, so within the past couple of months) I've sold over 15K worth of that LW item and they're mostly profit, I've probably netted 12K... comfortably above what it cost me to level LW in the first place. Nice, unexpected bonus.Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-89675140617933276402014-03-06T09:48:20.457-05:002014-03-06T09:48:20.457-05:00:-D dont give away your secret! :-D dont give away your secret! -abhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14899567485973250660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-79484087655704347612014-03-05T13:54:40.336-05:002014-03-05T13:54:40.336-05:00I found JC to be a pain last time I leveled it a f...I found JC to be a pain last time I leveled it a few months ago, but maybe that was just my dead server at the time. Enchanting is mostly sunk cost but if it's in an armor class you don't have at least currently it's lots of free crystals when you do max it. I think most professions are sunk costs while leveling but I haven't looked into it much. The one exception I've really noticed was engineering pets.<br /><br />I will be using my boost on a tailoring engineering alliance warlock for the sole reason of mount counts... I have every profession, most multiples, so having both of those professions on a warlock or paladin will give me a few extra mounts towards the total count.Cainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787494494043104629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-6274450907031268092014-03-05T11:31:48.119-05:002014-03-05T11:31:48.119-05:00@GE - Hm, I don't recall the stat issue, I do ...@GE - Hm, I don't recall the stat issue, I do recall that they didn't show up in the tooltip for the flask but you did actually get the stat in the character sheet. Been a while, though, so no promises on that.<br /><br />@Roo - I'm okay leveling professions too but those are the two that I find the most painful to do, ench because it requires a lot of mats that can often be difficult to get hold of if you aren't also leveling a crafting profession or 4 at the same time. Engineering is just a pain in the ass, too many items require 3 or 4 mats, some of which you craft and get skill ups on if you do them in the right order, and the right order is rarely obvious when the default UI doesn't show you when recipes will go yellow/green/grey, you either have to follow a guide or ballpark it and deal with being significantly sub-optimal in a way that other professions don't have to deal with (with alch, for instance, the toughest decision to make is whether to craft green recipes using cheap herbs vs yellow/orange recipes using an expensive mat like Goldthorn... that's trivial vs engineering).<br /><br />The one thing I will say on behalf of engineering, though, is that I occasionally came across a recipe that actually made me some gold while leveling... something like ench basically creates useless items that nobody wants so it's entirely a sunk cost while leveling. Eng at least had some potential to defray its own costs a bit.<br /><br />I used to hate JC but the one I leveled recently didn't seem as bad, I'm not sure if they improved the process a bit or if I'm just becoming immune to that type of pain. As for the Cat purchased recipes... eh, I just skipped 'em. What's the point now?<br /><br />(and I found one leveling recipe for LW that I'm *still* making good gold off, I've probably made enough to recover the entire LW leveling cost at this point)Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-24969670575376346492014-03-04T15:35:59.097-05:002014-03-04T15:35:59.097-05:00Yeap, I have the beta. Only played the opening pa...Yeap, I have the beta. Only played the opening part but I loved it a lot. I will surely be buying it the second it comes out and if they do manage to make it an MMO (not sure how they would) like they said they intend to I could see myself quitting warcraft for it.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-940937197614821772014-03-04T15:33:07.365-05:002014-03-04T15:33:07.365-05:00really, you had problems in LW and Engineering? Th...really, you had problems in LW and Engineering? Those two, well everything except JC was easy. I hated JC becsaue of having to buy patterns in Cata - the way you had to buy them. But tailoring, Black Smithing, Scribe, Enchanting, Herbs, Alchemy - just pretty easy to me. But you see, thats the wonder of how our brains (and lack of) work - R and you can do the math and work wonders in teh AH, while I have no problems with leveling up a profession. :D <br /><br />WasteLand II - are you in teh beta? I did not make it. I know you can't talk about, but how does it feel if you are in it?-abhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14899567485973250660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-7639349198025545652014-03-04T15:24:21.734-05:002014-03-04T15:24:21.734-05:00I would say leather working and engineering for th...I would say leather working and engineering for the two most difficult. But that is from my experiences. Enchanting has a bump in the road or two but nothing like leather working or engineering.<br /><br />Alch has never had its moment in the sun but you are right, it has always been a solid profession. It flies under the radar because it is not super over powered. But remember in cataclysm it was broken the entire expansion. We never got our bonus stats, only double duration.<br /><br />TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-82969347207472210922014-03-04T14:53:18.702-05:002014-03-04T14:53:18.702-05:00Math and economics, it's how some of us withou...Math and economics, it's how some of us without 15-year old reflexes (my reflexes could have kids that age!) manage to stay relevant. :)<br /><br />I always have a bit of a laugh when someone complains about high AH prices. "So, uh, go ahead and make one cheaper yourself, then."<br /><br />As for WoD, if you're having enough fun now, you probably will in WoD as well... if not, that probably won't change. Let that be your guide.Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-33826210714855983822014-03-04T14:18:40.477-05:002014-03-04T14:18:40.477-05:00@you two
ok, ok. I just never had any luck with t...@you two<br /><br />ok, ok. I just never had any luck with the AH - GE yaks about his non-luck with gear drops, mine is no ability to make money in the AH. Sad, but true. So, I stack up ore, metals, tailor cloth, BS metals, engineering whatever that special power source is called (I am at 90 on that one, after making 1 golem and the two pets), living steel is at 50, etc, etc, etc. I just horde (sorry for the pun) everything. <br /><br />But its good. :D <br /><br />Not sure if I will get Wabbits of Death. I will probably stay at mists then drop. <br /><br />Waste Land II is cowboys and I keep forgetting about that one. But still, the wild west instead of fantasy would be nice - or a fantasy wild west -. I wished someone would come out with an MMO that one could pick which server they would be one, such as a western server, a dragon killing fantasy one, a sci-fi one, etc. Same game system, just a different (oh damn, whats teh word I am looking for) cover, nah, thats not it - but it's going to have to work - the wire frame scenery could be painted different. hmmm, not making sense. ok, scratch that.<br /><br />ok, later. I think I am going home.-abhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14899567485973250660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-31335204211294253472014-03-04T13:34:33.326-05:002014-03-04T13:34:33.326-05:00As you say, there are a bunch of different criteri...As you say, there are a bunch of different criteria.<br /><br />For someone who wants to avoid leveling the two most difficult professions to level, I think it's pretty simple... Ench/Eng.<br /><br />I'm totally on board with "can't have too many xmute alchs", though, so including that is a no-brainer even though leveling it is relatively simple and inexpensive. I often wish I could go dual-alch on a toon for double cooldowns.<br /><br />Side note, that has me a bit scared... other profs have shone for short periods but alch has been the most consistent from a profitability and usefulness standpoint (double duration flasks! awesome early leveling trinkets!) for so long (since Wrath, at least) that I worry it might finally get hit. I'd have a hard time arguing against it but it would leave me with a lot of extra alchs if that happened. :)<br /><br />Missing profs should be the first priority for anyone, prioritizing Ench and Eng respectively just due to the avoided hassle, after that it's more or less agnostic. Avoid gathering professions, those are pretty easily leveled while leveling anyway (and for two, give XP), save those for non-instant toons.<br /><br />@Roo - Yep, as GE says, for a while in the early expansion it was possible to make a ton of profit with a 5-proc... although I never made as much as he did, my base cost at the time was more like 300g, not 50g... but making 1000-5000g from 300g is still a nice deal, especially considering it's a daily profit, per toon that has xmute alch...<br /><br />Even now it's generally possible on my servers to make 100-200g/day on a Living Steel xmute, the ore is down to about 2g/ea which translates to a cost of 154g* per LS bar (math below)... and most days they sell in the 300-350g range. I'm not making 4K profit on any of the 553 crafted gear at this point and it sells a lot slower than LS does.<br /><br />* MATH!<br />... and the art of AH equivalencies<br /><br />Assuming 2g/GIore:<br /><br />2g/GIore = 4g/GIbar <br />4g/GIbar = 40g/Tbar - 20% proc = 32g/Tbar<br />32g/Tbar = 192g/LSbar - 20% proc = 154g/LSbar<br /><br />This also means that if GIbars are < 2x GIore or Tbars are < 8x GIbars or 16x GIore or Tore < 2x GIbars or 4x GIore, just buy out whichever mat is cheapest based on that conversion and use that instead of going from GIore (also saves some time if your alch isn't your smelter). Lately I'm often seeing Tore for less than 4x GIore so that's the way I'm typically going these days when I don't need the Tore for prospecting for gems.Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-13426056623813565172014-03-04T10:29:12.118-05:002014-03-04T10:29:12.118-05:00Wow is still a long way from free to play but it i...Wow is still a long way from free to play but it is going to be free to play, yes, absolutely. No matter what they say actions speak louder than words and their actions say they are slowly building the system and putting it in place to become free to play, otherwise know as pay to win.<br /><br />You might like wasteland. Not sure when the MMO part comes into play, never made it that far, but it is post apocalyptic, however it plays as if you are futuristic cowboys. At least that is how I always felt about it.<br /><br />When the expansion first started you could sell living steel for 1000 gold, even more, but you could easily farm up the materials to make it in less than an hour, or even buy them cheap. If you got a 5 proc while making a living steel and sold them all for 1000 you are making 5000. That is what I meant.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-22793189619407691612014-03-04T10:15:25.584-05:002014-03-04T10:15:25.584-05:00as usual you make good sense.
Do you get the id...as usual you make good sense. <br /><br />Do you get the idea than maybe soon WOW will be free to play with all the crap needed to rip off folks who want the über gear? And possible still have a sub where those folks are in the "elite" player group and can buy things at a discount or can level, I think sort of like the star wars online? <br /><br />I still want an MMO like WOW but set in a western setting. I wonder how many different ways one can spell Daniel Boone, lol.<br /><br />My one herb/alchemist is a tranmute god. can turn ghost iron into Trillium and then that into Living Steel. Worth it for that alone. <br /><br />But I don't knkow what you are chatting about able to sell for 5000g from 50g. I haven't found anything like that on my server. And to add a fly in the butter, Misha is one of the joined servers. That server is huge! they command the AH with folks who under cut 30% to 50%. Oh well. <br /><br />Just having 1 alchemist is worth his weight in gold. <br /><br />As is 2 enchanters, 2 skinners, 1 LW, 1 Engineer, and 2 miners, 1 JC, 1 tailor/blacksmith, those others (forgot who they are). They are all important.<br /><br />today is a huge patch Tuesday, I wonder whats going on?-abhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14899567485973250660noreply@blogger.com