tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post4233846402220559735..comments2024-03-27T07:57:48.010-04:00Comments on The Grumpy Elf: Grin and Bear It: The Legendary MottoTheGrumpyElfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-62248796283685617582013-11-26T07:07:05.311-05:002013-11-26T07:07:05.311-05:00It never even occurred to me either but it makes s...It never even occurred to me either but it makes sense, or I would like to believe it does.<br /><br />There are only two options. Somehow I did not automatically get it, or I am really the unluckiest person in the game. While I often say the latter, I would really hope that is not the fact.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-21428290569012141852013-11-26T02:23:26.551-05:002013-11-26T02:23:26.551-05:00Appreciated.
I've never heard of that apparen...Appreciated.<br /><br />I've never heard of that apparent bug (especially since you can't even loot something like Sha on LFR/Flex) but whatever.Balkothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12425374556730828853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-85023940421440508452013-11-23T09:23:52.750-05:002013-11-23T09:23:52.750-05:00Anon, Grumpy's former guild leader:
(Liberals...Anon, Grumpy's former guild leader:<br /><br />(Liberals FEEL that climate change is happening that doesn’t make it happen.) <br /><br />You see what I did there...<br /><br />Look, I don't necessarily disagree that lots of political things can be felt. Emotional states in WoW however are better served by leaving real world thoughts and deeds aside. <br /><br />The primary free speech restriction we as a guild impose in guild chat is one of an absolute ban on folks making politics and religion subjects of discussion. That is really a good rule to follow on any website not dedicated to Politics or Religion. Now you aren't a guildie of mine, but honestly, what purpose other than inflaming someone of an opposing view, does including the line about conservatives?<br /><br />In short, Politics and Religion are not topics to be discussed in WoW unless you are looking for an argument. One of our best players is an absolute loon over an conspiracy theory, a conspiracy theory that as best I can see is nonsensical. Now if I dwelled on that, I could not play with that person, but instead because we stay off that subject, the fact is I truly enjoy playing with that person. <br /><br />Now most of the folks who read it either already agreed with the statement, or they were insulted by it. Some probably didn't even read it closely enough to snort in agreement or roll their eyes in disagreement. But really, what real relationship to playing WoW did that statement make?<br /><br />TL;DR: Leave politics and religion out of WoW discussions. It serves no purpose but to alienate others. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-58230481698199392672013-11-22T08:14:09.001-05:002013-11-22T08:14:09.001-05:00Someone just explained in another post what might ...Someone just explained in another post what might be the reason for me not getting the items.<br /><br />They said that even in the personal loot system you have to loot sometimes. When I beat a boss I just move on. I have never even considered looting a boss in LFR. He said you have to.<br /><br />It would also explain sha and me never getting anything from him in LFR. As soon as the fight is over I leave group.<br /><br />So perhaps it is my own stupidity for believing it would be automatically put in my bags that is why I did not get it. <br /><br />With as much as I question blizzards coding I should have known better than to trust their personal loot system.<br /><br />From now on I will absolutely wait and see if there is loot after a kill.<br /><br />I was not going to edit my post, because I am 100% correct that I got nothing off sha, but with what he said, I will add that.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-72210488447512511232013-11-22T08:10:30.268-05:002013-11-22T08:10:30.268-05:00So it does happen with personal loot?
I've ne...So it does happen with personal loot?<br /><br />I've never even once thought to loot a boss when I was doing something that was personal loot.<br /><br />Thanks, I will always make sure to check for loot now. Maybe my problem is not bad luck, just stupidity on my part for thinking it would be put in my bag.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-28914206446528594552013-11-22T08:01:31.653-05:002013-11-22T08:01:31.653-05:00Someone else posted the link but I can say with ab...Someone else posted the link but I can say with absolute certainty that I have killed sha and did not get a runestone or a secret. Bug? Maybe. Was it on normal and I forgot to loot it, like someone suggested? Maybe.<br /><br />But, no matter what maybe there is, I killed it and I did not get it. That is absolutely fact.<br /><br />Like I said, on my lock I could be wrong but on my priest I am sure. I did not get any secrets last week.<br /><br />My main is capped, so I capped my priest last week. I did the ToTs and the first 3 SoO in LFR and I capped out in normal and flex. So yes, I did all of them that could drop secrets. Did I do the normals before the flex/lfr, maybe, but I did do all the bosses that could drop them and I got 0.<br /><br />Could I be wrong and it was something I did wrong, absolutely, but I got none and that is a fact.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-22003348591604109132013-11-22T07:47:43.628-05:002013-11-22T07:47:43.628-05:00Someone else posted that link as well. I can say,...Someone else posted that link as well. I can say, with absolute certainty, that I have killed sha and not received a runestone however.<br /><br />I guess for me I would like to get one healer and one tank there, finished with the quest. Because I want to as I know it will make me better with them.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-74809738252016383192013-11-21T23:57:18.950-05:002013-11-21T23:57:18.950-05:00No worries Grumpy. :-)
I've only noticed this ...No worries Grumpy. :-)<br />I've only noticed this happen with the personal loot system (i.e. LFR and Flex raids) as you expect the loot to go straight into your bags, but for whatever reason, it doesn't.<br /><br />I am also Loot Master for my normal raids, so it's not an issue then as I will have to manually loot the boss to distribute items. I have only seen it happen in LFR or Flex runs.<br /><br />Hopefulley, this may increase your luck a bit and you can finish off those outstanding items.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />Bronebeard (Saurfang-US)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-37308219580620269882013-11-21T16:43:29.602-05:002013-11-21T16:43:29.602-05:00Maybe we keep saying it because it's true?
ht...Maybe we keep saying it because it's true?<br /><br />http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/9687729#june10<br /><br />"Lei Shen will now always drop a Titan Runestone or Secrets of the Empire for players that are on the legendary quest line."<br /><br />Also:<br /><br />http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10137754011#2<br /><br />"Lei Shen and Sha of Pride are 100% guaranteed to drop the item that you need."<br /><br />So, yes, you are guaranteed two runestones or two secrets a week even if literally no other bosses besides those two drop one.<br /><br />If you're going to rant and complain at least make sure you're actually correct about the issue. It is completely unfair to mislead others about this kind of stuff.<br /><br />So I would appreciate you editing your original post to reflect this fact so others don't get the wrong idea.Balkothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12425374556730828853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-70325255324374241212013-11-21T13:50:29.179-05:002013-11-21T13:50:29.179-05:00And again, that's fine if you choose to do it ...And again, that's fine if you choose to do it personally, but basically agreeing with a troll who makes a stupid claim like "if you don't have 3 already you aren't trying" is the opposite of the right reaction. Even on the simplest level, why 3? Why not 6? I mean, hell, if you don't have 6 you're a total scrub. Same for 10, or 25, or 50 (what, you don't have a full account of max-level, geared toons? How do you spend your time in-game?!).<br /><br />Players need to feel free to find their own level, whatever it is, not to be pressured into hitting some sort of completely arbitrary value of "barely enough" that'll be completely different between any two people for a huge number of different factors.<br /><br />It's not a rumour, it's as factual as it could possibly be, I linked a blue comment recently but here it is again again:<br />http://wowcenter.pl/Blue-Tracker/273261/Secrets-of-the-Empire-question<br /><br />Copied here, just to make sure:<br /><br />---<br />If you already completed Siege of Orgrimmar wings 1 and 2 for Secrets of the Empire they won't drop a Titan Runestone. If you haven't completed Throne of Thunder wings 3 and 4 though, you can run that with Lei Shen being a 100% guaranteed drop..<br /><br />As a side note, only the first 8 bosses in SoO have a chance (Sha of Pride is 100% guaranteed just like Lei Shen) to drop items for Wrathion's legendary quest line.<br />---<br /><br />Secrets of the Empire (and Titan Runestones) are GUARANTEED from Lei Shen and Sha of Pride. 2 a week. If you aren't getting 2 a week, you either aren't killing those bosses or you killed them when you weren't actually on that quest or you have already killed the boss that lockout and already have one from it or weren't on the quest at THAT time. Period. If you aren't getting stones from those bosses you should be putting in tickets, they should absolutely be dropping.<br /><br />I can't speak to VP bonuses, aside from the mobs that sometimes or always drop bonus VP I don't pay any attention to VP except whether I'm capped or not. Some of the heroic 5-mans have bonus VP these days but I'm not aware of anything in LFR other than those bonus mobs.Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-82846577395107886572013-11-21T08:59:08.108-05:002013-11-21T08:59:08.108-05:00The priest seems to be the one easiest for me as i...The priest seems to be the one easiest for me as it gets into the LFRs faster, so less wait means more desire to get it done. For me at least.<br /><br />The PvP part is kind of brutal but I like it more than waiting on drops. It is just too random for me. Some characters get tons, some get none. Heck, I've even not gotten something off the the "guaranteed" drop bosses. So luck does not get worse than that.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-27520522836244029662013-11-21T08:30:10.383-05:002013-11-21T08:30:10.383-05:00I think I know the turtle she is talking about. lo...I think I know the turtle she is talking about. lol<br /><br />I like the process of building up a character, seeing a character grow. My main it at a stage where the moments of growth are few and far between. My alts however need gear, need the cloak, need to be developed, and I like to go after it.<br /><br />If I could get in flex and normal or had the time to do it on multiple characters, with my alts, I would. Absolutely. Because I like to play.<br /><br />Just because I do not intend to use the character for raiding does not turn me off of looking to advance them. It is not all about raiding, it is about advancing. It is why I like leveling, you see yourself moving forward. That cloak is moving forward.<br /><br />Luck goes in spurts. I've said it before and I will say it again. I finally got my last 2 secrets on my priest last night in the final part of ToT. So a lucky week no doubt right? I went and did the solo thing (wow it is so much easier on a disc priest) and went to the first part of SoO to start collecting runestones, expecting to get none. I got one off every boss. 4 bosses, 4 stones. Luck moves in spurts. At least this week it seems to be moving at the same pace as everyone else.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-63878906164374233952013-11-21T08:21:36.593-05:002013-11-21T08:21:36.593-05:00I like to play, it comes down to that.
My main is...I like to play, it comes down to that.<br /><br />My main is done, he is capped, there is nothing much I can get from LFR (one piece) and few things I can get from flex (three pieces) not to mention the difficulty of finding a group for them.<br /><br />So I gear alts because it is something to do. I like the idea of building up a character. If I did not gear up alts and only played my main I would basically be in the position of only logging in on raid night.<br /><br />I do it because I want to play, not because I want to gear alts. At least to some extent.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-71273908243204616662013-11-21T08:12:45.345-05:002013-11-21T08:12:45.345-05:00That is what took me so long on my mage to finish ...That is what took me so long on my mage to finish it. After losing 10 battles in a row I took a break for a few weeks. It was not worth it for an alt to put myself through that hell.<br /><br />I ended up grabbing a few guild mates that were after the win also one weekend and it took us three tries to get it. Still not great, but better as a group with some communication.<br /><br />I gear the others because I want to. Sure I might be pushing too hard because I feel I need to, but I do not mind doing it really. Just get frustrated having to do something I already did sometimes.<br /><br />I think I have only ranked on 3 of the first 13 (have not downed the last yet). I've been off my game all tier. But it could also be because I still do not have a decent weapon for the tier. I do have the 4 piece however, 3 from normal, so that is a surprise for me. No new trinkets either except the AoC flex I got first week. Rocking that and a heroic rentakis still. I think once I get a weapons and some trinkets my numbers will really shoot up.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-70451334658084799452013-11-21T08:07:09.381-05:002013-11-21T08:07:09.381-05:00LFR is personal loot. I am doing them all through...LFR is personal loot. I am doing them all through there for alts. If I do go on a normal I've already done it on LFR so I can not loot a quest item off a boss I already killed so I never even try to manually loot. (also as loot master if there were something to loot I most likely would loot it and not even notice it.)<br /><br />I guess it is possible that they are not going into my bag, if I were doing normals. But can that happen in LFR?<br /><br />I remember on my main the first time through I would always have to remind people to loot and the only reason I would even remember is I was loot master and I saw it there. So I can surely see how that is possible to forget to loot. If not for being loot master I might have forgot.<br /><br />Thanks for the notice however, I will try to remember to loot should I do a normal.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-47007672570565770052013-11-21T08:03:04.438-05:002013-11-21T08:03:04.438-05:00This late in the game I don't expect to catch ...This late in the game I don't expect to catch up quick but I think I would be happy with a 33% drop rate, as in one secret per ToT. I could live with that.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-28472651178590187762013-11-21T08:02:08.673-05:002013-11-21T08:02:08.673-05:00I could be mistaken by a minor amount. As in I di...I could be mistaken by a minor amount. As in I did not do all but most. But I am not mistaken about my bad luck. (this is referring to the lock)<br /><br />The priest I am 100% certain on, as we had been having some healers missing so I've been making an effort to get caught up with it. It is also the character I am capping valor on as my main is sitting at 3K with nothing to spend it on. So I've been capping by doing all the LFRs, as they are instant queue most of the time.<br /><br />You are not, repeat, not guaranteed secrets off any bosses. Not sure why people keep saying that. They might have a higher drop rate but it is not a guaranteed drop rate. You are thinking runestones, that is the only one that has a guaranteed drop off lei shen. But with my luck I would not put it past not getting one on that too. At least it feels that way sometimes.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-50117829831062285352013-11-21T02:27:52.696-05:002013-11-21T02:27:52.696-05:00My honey gets so angry when doing pets. Counts the...My honey gets so angry when doing pets. Counts the rounds and says look at this like 38 rounds and still the turtle won't die. And complains and complains till I say get off pet battles, they're not for you, they don't make you happy so just stop.<br /><br />Why exactly do you do this? Is there an actual logic as to why every alt and their mother has to have cloaks? What progression are they all pushing? Why stop at that? Why not flex on them and pug normal on all of them every week? Why should you stop at solo, because that's defo not the best you can do.<br /><br />My two cents? Stop counting. Stop doing them for alts that don't need them. The ones you raid on, go get that for them. Focus on them, don't do 50 alts and 500 bosses so it seems like a neverending struggle.<br /><br /><br />But hell... my baby still does pets, still gets angry so so will you.<br /><br />You know what else my baby does. Every freaking raid after their group beats Garrosh, whispers me how many heirlooms their hunter now has. 6. Yes. The guy is lucky and gets a heirloom almost every time he comes. 95% of us ( 4 raiding teams) never even seen one. So my baby gets pissed how unfair and surreal this is.<br />You're doing this too. You're complaining how some people get lucky and get all their whatevers in 3 weeks and how bad and dreadful it is that you didn't. Just stop looking at how green the grass is for someone else. Every time you get something, even if it's not a lot, you progress further... but you prefer to look at how many more you have left and how long it will take instead of being happy you're closer to your goal. Happy when you get something, not unhappy when you don't...<br />Yeah, I know, my words don't reach... Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18173436197557929355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-61852886636207436862013-11-21T01:28:28.024-05:002013-11-21T01:28:28.024-05:00The amount of effort you put into gearing your alt...The amount of effort you put into gearing your alts is astounding. I'd never even think about getting the MOP legendary on a second character, one is enough. Then again, if that's your fun, why not. I like tryharding 3v3 on alts from time to time, even on undergeared ones (it's a lot of fun to see if you can hit 1800 while getting your oversized cap, and yeah, it can be pretty challenging), so I can relate in a way...PVP anonhttp://nowhere.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-53151952140748301932013-11-21T00:45:26.721-05:002013-11-21T00:45:26.721-05:00-I am trying to do the legendary quest on 2 alts a...-I am trying to do the legendary quest on 2 alts at the moment. But I am not pushing as hard as I was on my main. I was doing that earlier, but when I tried to get 2 BG wins before doing the ToT lfrs as I had just done my 3k valor part after the reset, trying to get 2 wins by queuing back to back and losing for hours left me with a really foul mood. I had to take a step back and think ,why I am pushing so hard, whats the point, alts are there to fill the time between main raids, they are not main chars, it will not be the end of the world if I miss a few secrets or dont get a BG win this week, I will get it eventually. So once I had this clarity , I stopped worrying about my progress of legendary on alts and now just casually working on it, not giving a damn if its delayed 2 weeks or 3 weeks or more.<br />-Grumpy I have noticed, the main source of your frustration with this game is alts, even if you agree or not. You feel that you need to keep a geared tank and healer to help the group, that is all good and great, but it puts a great pressure on you to keep those alts geared and put as much effort on doing legendary quest as you do on your main. With connected realms coming I hope you get a decent pool of raiders in your realm group, and you get to just play your hunter for entire expansion and not dabble with tanks and healers for progress raids.<br />-Regarding raiding, really tired after a 12 hour work shift and sleeping just 4hours the day before,dint perform up to my standards on the farm night after reset yesterday.<br />Dint die much but dint rank either as I had really good ranks the week before and you need to do better dps to rank again , you wont rank again till you exceed your own previous record on a boss even if you exceed the rank limit dps on that fight. Kinda dissappointing, because as a dps this is what I derive fun from, getting better and better at my role which is reflected by higher numbers.<br />-Also realized something. playing sub , its more important to master your tanks movements then it is to master to the rotation,dps will go down the toilet if your tank turns boss arround while you are shadow dancing and missed the motion. Its like ball rall room dancing, just that there is an ugly monster between you and your partner. <br /><br />-straws, kazzak-euAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-51032394765617819572013-11-21T00:19:24.270-05:002013-11-21T00:19:24.270-05:00One thing Grumpy I have wondered as I hear about y...One thing Grumpy I have wondered as I hear about your horrible luck with quest drops is:<br /><br />Do you manually loot each boss in LFR/Flex or rely on the personal loot system?<br /><br />I have found on occasion that even when my bags are not full and all things being equal quest drops should go straight into my bags, but they don't. If I then go and manually loot the boss, I get the item.<br /><br />So I wonder if there have been many Sigils/Secrets/Runestone that may have actually dropped (including the supposed 'guaranteed' drops) that you just may not have received.<br /><br />Just my 2 cents.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />Bronebeard (Saurfang-US)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-81130952023366772932013-11-20T19:35:50.861-05:002013-11-20T19:35:50.861-05:00I'm big into alting and I still have yet to ge...I'm big into alting and I still have yet to get beyond the PVP portion on my alts. I have the cloak on my main and it's not worth the investment... I'm honestly not sure I could do the solo scenario on my alts anyway.<br /><br />And I've had rather good luck to be sure. One toon got 20 sigils in 22 boss kills. [Why couldn't that be my main back when that tier was current?!] But I know several of my raiders are still at the mercy of the secrets and runestone drops, and they're having bad luck with them. Hubby and I have co-tanked LFRs to help them out.<br /><br />If you want the legendary on multiple toons, more power to you! I MIGHT end up with it on the priest alt someday. I haven't been trying and while a part of me feels I should, I start to try the PVP part and remember why not lol.<br /><br />Good luck though, in whatever you want to do!Karahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03157092440833967471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-45229877474550399442013-11-20T17:57:31.954-05:002013-11-20T17:57:31.954-05:00It really is a constant struggle. I really do hope...It really is a constant struggle. I really do hope you are able to find that happy medium. I do feel that it has gotten better with practice for me. Tigginoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-49140158552325148162013-11-20T17:30:36.797-05:002013-11-20T17:30:36.797-05:00"In three weeks my warlock went from needing ..."In three weeks my warlock went from needing 8 wisdom and 7 power to needing 2 wisdom and 1 power."<br /><br />So you literally did...<br /><br />16 bosses in t14<br />12 bosses in t15<br />8 bosses in t16 (first eight)<br /><br />for three weeks (36 bosses a week = 108 bosses)<br /><br />and you only got 12 sigils from those 108 bosses?<br /><br />"In the three weeks, and now 4th, my priest has went from needing 6 secrets to needing 2. In the three weeks I did every single boss there is to do that can drop them, that means 20 bosses a week."<br /><br />You're either mistaken or lying on this.<br /><br />You're guaranteed a Secret from both Lei Shena and Sha of Pride each week -- so even if literally no Secrets drop outside of those two bosses, you still get two per week. Which means there is no way you went from needing 6 to needing 2 in three weeks while also doing every boss who can drop them -- two guaranteed per week times three weeks means six minimum.Balkothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12425374556730828853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-677005827646307202013-11-20T17:14:11.920-05:002013-11-20T17:14:11.920-05:00I have proved, to myself, that just because I &quo...I have proved, to myself, that just because I "feel" like I should do something I would not do it if I did not want to. Hence the reason I am not done with the quest on multiple characters even if I "feel" I should be. It is my own little rebellion of one, if you will, against the mandatory term.<br /><br />I do tend to put to much on myself however, I know that. I always have, it is just the way I am. I've learned this expansion to say "fuck it" a lot. In a way it has made my experience better and in a way it has made it worse. There is a whole post I could write on how taking your time is good for me and bad for me. We each need to find that middle ground for ourselves I think. Where we are doing enough to make ourselves happy with what we are doing, but not doing so much that we are pushing beyond reasonable expectations.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.com