tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post3641619573959833670..comments2024-03-27T07:57:48.010-04:00Comments on The Grumpy Elf: SoO Wing 4 LFR - Good or Bad, Too Confused to Tell.TheGrumpyElfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-63665847118316368182013-10-28T09:54:19.643-04:002013-10-28T09:54:19.643-04:00I had a run like that in part 4 on my lock this we...I had a run like that in part 4 on my lock this weekend. We wiped a lot, 3 on the first boss, 2 on the second, 7 on the last. It was not a very good group to say the least, but it mostly stayed together and worked as a team saying "what did we do wrong", "how can we get better", and things like that.<br /><br />Oddly enough, even wiping over 10 times in there it was a good run, not frustrating at all even if a little depressing.<br /><br />The difference is in the people, they wanted to make it work and to learn together.<br /><br />The LFR in concept is not bad, the people in it are.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-50970894461974461882013-10-25T20:20:32.142-04:002013-10-25T20:20:32.142-04:00Okay so I went through 4th part. Wednesday we onl...Okay so I went through 4th part. Wednesday we only managed to get through two bosses before hubby had to head to bed and I won't tank them alone so I left too - and that's by two shotting the first boss and one shotting Klaxxi. Only two full raid wipes on Garrosh trash. We took a few shots at Garrosh and it was going well but the whole thing was just taking forever.<br /><br />I queued back up as dps and spent the next hour in the Brawler's guild. When I got in, it was a fresh run [of course when I only need the last boss] and we had a couple people that vaguely explained. We lost a few along the way, including a tank but it was the most positive LFR experience I've had in some time. I have a knack for getting in hostile groups.<br /><br />We three shot Garrosh. And the second attempt a tank left mid fight, so not sure that counts. The fight is actually remarkably simple if you can get 25 people to follow mechanics. That there would be the key - getting 25 people to do what needs to be done :P<br /><br />Anyway group attitude was really positive. The new tank we got was really annoyed because he kept getting into Garrosh groups that had no hope of downing it [according to him] but we convinced him we'd almost had it the last attempt [we'd gotten to Phase 3 before the tank just left] and he said he'd give it a try. The general attitude had been "we're going to wipe a few times, but by golly we'll get this"<br /><br />We even had people calling out positive things during the fight. "We've got this" and "Hang on!". <br /><br />And trust me, I know how rare a group like that is. We were puzzling out the mechanics, not blaming anyone."<br /><br />"We need to make sure X happens"<br /><br />"Okay let's do it"<br /><br />I suppose it had to happen sometime - me getting a group with a positive attitude. And I'm pretty sure I can explain the Garrosh fight to an LFR group now.Karahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03157092440833967471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-21316453011296784992013-10-24T15:59:52.227-04:002013-10-24T15:59:52.227-04:00That is great. Even funnier when it is accidental...That is great. Even funnier when it is accidental. It is like, where did that come from?TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-6149842266784133492013-10-24T13:14:13.105-04:002013-10-24T13:14:13.105-04:00We had an accidental pull like that last night on ...We had an accidental pull like that last night on the Garrosh trash... I had guildies amazed at my 1 million dps... well, so was I.Karahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03157092440833967471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-58827670019931161612013-10-24T07:35:23.003-04:002013-10-24T07:35:23.003-04:00That is awesome. When I tank I like to joke aroun...That is awesome. When I tank I like to joke around like that too. Thrash spam with incarnation and I have seen myself spike over 1.6M on some pulls. Poor healers trying to keep me up. Cooldowns only last so long, but it is so much fun.<br /><br />Kicking everyone under the tank. Oh wait, that is all of you. <br /><br />Congrats on your dagger. I would be happy with normal loot. Heck, I would be happy with flex loot at the rate I am going lately.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-38594307406412470452013-10-24T07:32:49.540-04:002013-10-24T07:32:49.540-04:00But.. but... killing people is fun. :)
I know wha...But.. but... killing people is fun. :)<br /><br />I know what you mean, but there is only so much I could do. It was either slow trap to slow the 4 mobs chasing me, or CC one with a trap. I decided keeping 4 slowed was better than CCing 1. I could have very well been wrong, it would not be the first time, but that was the decision I came to. Between that, concussive, binding shot, I was able to keep mobs on me mostly and work them down slowly.<br /><br />And of course, every so often sacrifice an unsuspecting assistant. :PTheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-50964737350908484412013-10-24T07:30:12.317-04:002013-10-24T07:30:12.317-04:00You mention under geared and I believe I need to c...You mention under geared and I believe I need to comment on that.<br /><br />496 might be needed to queue for SoO, but if you are 496 you are under geared for SoO. Even more so if you are ungemmed and unenchanted, which many are.<br /><br />Blizzard made a huge mistake making the item level requirement that low. Perhaps they are as much to blame for letting those tanks in to begin with.<br /><br />That trash is a nightmare. I hope they nerf it in LFR or I can see people wiping more on trash than bosses for months to come.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-71763069371657846552013-10-24T04:21:25.826-04:002013-10-24T04:21:25.826-04:00Garrosh trash is memorable for me because of our b...Garrosh trash is memorable for me because of our bear tank yelling 1million dps 1 million dps in vent as he pulled first pack with all the small sha things , followed by entire raid dying. <br />That trash is so easy if mobs are cced and killed one by one. Trick to it is never pull the sha thingies with the humaniods there, cc all of humanoids and pull those sha things and kill it, or be careful when pulling humaniods not pull the sha.<br /><br />Also, Heroic warforged dagger from norushen made me a very happy panda(err troll ) .<br /><br />-straws , kazzak-euAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-71287276323807068852013-10-24T02:47:27.519-04:002013-10-24T02:47:27.519-04:00Didn't do LFR but did the Garrosh / Garrosh tr...Didn't do LFR but did the Garrosh / Garrosh trash both in 10m and 25m. It seems the more people there are, the less CCs, stuns, interrupts and heals we have. CC a target or two instead of killing people.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18173436197557929355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-74674030384626291152013-10-24T01:10:01.538-04:002013-10-24T01:10:01.538-04:00came in on the trash to Garosh - the raid leader&#...came in on the trash to Garosh - the raid leader's only comment was a single "lol" during about a dozen wipes on trash. One of the tanks tried to organize, but failed due to 50% being unable to understand English and another 25% not reading chat. Then I noticed you can use cc......<br /><br />suddenly things got a LOT easier - until Garrosh. Wiped 6 times, and I think I blame at least in part the undergeared - or inexperienced - tanks.<br /><br />After 6 wipes both left - we got 2 new tanks and one shot the boss :(<br /><br />wierd evening<br /><br />Rauxis, chosen of CAT<br /><br />Rauxisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-73954697965954808452013-10-23T13:54:49.159-04:002013-10-23T13:54:49.159-04:00I guess it was not just us that the trash ripped a...I guess it was not just us that the trash ripped apart. In a way I am glad to hear it wasn't just us. I hope blizzard nerfs the trash a little. Trash should not be harder than bosses.<br /><br />If you did any part in flex or on normal / heroic you also can open up LFR is seems. My shaman has never stepped into the LFR SoO and I can do all parts because I have healed them on flex. I think that is good at least.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-11907751130595863022013-10-23T13:52:02.219-04:002013-10-23T13:52:02.219-04:00Absolutely. I saw nothing wrong with the first tw...Absolutely. I saw nothing wrong with the first two tanks. I was not a healer however so I can not comment on how they were to heal as tanks but just as far as I could see they were fine.<br /><br />I am with you, I think people are too harsh on tanks when anything goes wrong. While I do think one left because he might have done the last boss already as he left right after the second, the other left because of being abused. That is why I never tank them even if I do need gear.<br /><br />I look forward to seeing what you have to say on it.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-91544481585280649622013-10-23T12:28:27.039-04:002013-10-23T12:28:27.039-04:00I got an incomplete run so I only saw paragons the...I got an incomplete run so I only saw paragons the trash and garosh. Garosh we were at like a 6 stack before the kill. We also had more wipes on the trash than anything. That is one thing I think they should change about LFR in general, eliminate the trash. In normal if trash can drop stuff fine, but in LFR where you wait an hour to get in and depending on the group quite a while to complete just the bosses let us just skip trash. It wasn't as bad as I was expecting for first week as overall people were at least being more respectful of those of us that tried to explain. I was surprised that if you've completed all three wings on any difficulty you could queue for LFR for wing 4 instead of having had to do all 3 in LFR. I had done a flex of wing 3, but had been avoiding LFR for a few weeks till more people learned. Still wish it was account wide though. I have 11 toons that have done ToT and yet the 11th still had to do all parts in order to unlock them. I might have considered some ToeS for weapons and trinkets on the latest alts if I wouldn't have had to do both halves of HoF first.Cainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787494494043104629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-32120502907737573062013-10-23T11:59:36.998-04:002013-10-23T11:59:36.998-04:00Being a tank, I'm curious about one thing - co...Being a tank, I'm curious about one thing - could you have completed the LFR with the first two tanks? If yes, then perhaps people in LFR [in general] need to check their attitude about tanks.<br /><br />I was going to write more, but it started turning into a blog post, so I may just post there...Karahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03157092440833967471noreply@blogger.com