tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post1869600877263750913..comments2024-03-29T05:19:30.673-04:00Comments on The Grumpy Elf: Do You Like The Jumping Games?TheGrumpyElfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-62640708392072017082015-06-08T10:53:47.105-04:002015-06-08T10:53:47.105-04:00For me it was not the gilder itself that bothered ...For me it was not the gilder itself that bothered me, it was the three mile hike back if you missed that got really tired really fast.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-19388123024904182972015-06-08T09:48:24.613-04:002015-06-08T09:48:24.613-04:00Jumping puzzles, yes. Gliders, no. One or two glid...Jumping puzzles, yes. Gliders, no. One or two glider treasures would have been interesting, the silliness that is Nagrand - not so much.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18173436197557929355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-18230666717880219992015-06-01T11:53:57.986-04:002015-06-01T11:53:57.986-04:00I will say the same thing I always do when they li...I will say the same thing I always do when they list those numbers.<br /><br />They are only counting raiders, not players. So that is the number of "raiders" that have done that. Not the number of players.<br /><br />They even say so in the post. I think those numbers are a little low for the "over all" of the game and that is knowing they are only checking raiders. Which seems kind of odd that they would be that low.<br /><br />You would figure the number would be higher if you were strictly looking at raiders for how they are doing in raids, which, for the most part, that is what they are doing.<br /><br />I hope we get blackhand before the next patch comes out. I have not missed a AotC since they added it and if I miss this one, it really would make me want to quit raiding. Because that would mean one of two things, find another guild or quit. And I sure as hell do not want to find another guild, so that means quitting would be my only option.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-55904398145951076912015-06-01T11:49:48.836-04:002015-06-01T11:49:48.836-04:00Yeah, his suggestions really seem on target.Yeah, his suggestions really seem on target.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-22625879948431467162015-06-01T11:27:53.570-04:002015-06-01T11:27:53.570-04:00I'm just going to agree with Jaeger.I'm just going to agree with Jaeger.To Bee or Not to Beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10929748357206418382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-35881927887148660762015-06-01T10:57:26.031-04:002015-06-01T10:57:26.031-04:00new data graphs over at mmoc.
http://www.mmo-cham...new data graphs over at mmoc.<br /><br />http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4924-Blackrock-Foundry-Stats-Blue-Tweets-Setup-of-the-Month-Symmetra-Gameplay<br /><br />according to them, among active players, around 25% of them have downed a boss on heroic difficulty.<br /><br />of those initial 25% who have downed a boss on heroic difficulty, there is a further breakdown of which bosses they got down. the least common are blackhand 40% > blast furnace 60% > iron maidens 70%.<br /><br />This matches our guild.<br />--<br />regards,<br /><br />regardsanonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-77924750668100527712015-05-31T19:41:10.263-04:002015-05-31T19:41:10.263-04:00Not level my character, but get all the "enor...Not level my character, but get all the "enormous" fish achievement so I could get nat pagle in a day. It is actually even easier now, way way way easier being all catches in pools are enormous fish now no matter your fishing skill level.<br /><br />I like garrisons, but hate that I have one on each character. I think that is the one mistake of garrisons, making it such a huge time sink for each and every character. It should be a one and done thing.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-13575593502082255292015-05-31T19:38:29.859-04:002015-05-31T19:38:29.859-04:00Someone spamming advertising something. I deleted...Someone spamming advertising something. I deleted it. I get them all the time.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-44601865723744831352015-05-31T07:54:26.704-04:002015-05-31T07:54:26.704-04:00I would like to know how you level in a day from 9...I would like to know how you level in a day from 90 to 100 just by fishing. If that is all that is required, teach me. <br /><br />But on to what you are chatting about - I liked the jumping games (I can see a movie 2 or 3 or even more, about a young lass who has to jump to win food for her family, called "The Jumping Games", LOL. <br /><br />Ok, enough of that, got to get the meds squared away - I only enjoy them on my mains on the different server just to get that garrison going. Nothing more wonky than getting to a 100 trying to get that garrison to lvl 3 and no 1200 or was it 1500 (?) garrison supplies. What a bunch of hooey. Why can't the toons on the same server just use the one garrison, instead of having to build their own? That really sucks. <br /><br />Ok, gots to go feed Mister Sweet Bob. Otherwise he will nibble my toes (He's my last really old ferret. Lost Miss Peachy (his mate) a few months and since they were together for 6 years, he is lonely).<br /><br />-roo <i>(huh, still want to know what that crap is doing above me. I know it is not Crappy Elf sponsored, oops I mean Grumpy Elf sponsored.)</i>-abhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14899567485973250660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-90563398587757893102015-05-31T07:45:38.446-04:002015-05-31T07:45:38.446-04:00whats that shit above me? It doesn't belong he...whats that shit above me? It doesn't belong here does it? Or some asshole trying their spam?<br /><br />-roo-abhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14899567485973250660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-40162274057352317972015-05-29T19:58:19.570-04:002015-05-29T19:58:19.570-04:00I loved the lorewaker cho stories. They were wort...I loved the lorewaker cho stories. They were worth it if you ask me, even without the flying disc, but I do like the disc a lot.<br /><br />It seems to be quite common to hear people say the rewards were not enough to be worth doing them. It is kind of cool to hear the ideas you and others have said to make it more interesting. I really wish blizzard would read some of them and add them, it would be a nice addition and add something that is lacking from the jumping games now, a reason to do them.<br /><br />One guild member told me he punched his monitor after failing at a jump over and over for an hour. So you are not alone in not being good at them. Trust me.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-90443466172508289282015-05-29T19:18:59.648-04:002015-05-29T19:18:59.648-04:00The jumping puzzles were okay while I was leveling...The jumping puzzles were okay while I was leveling the first time through. Though, they would have been far better if they place you could land always 100% matched up with where it was visually. I haven't bothered much at all with them after hitting 100. I didn't even do all of them on a single character.<br />There simply wasn't enough incentive. If there had been bits of a mount in them I'd have done them. If there'd been a rep prize with a mount behind it like for the Pandaria Scrolls I'd have done them. Those scrolls were perfect.I did them more than once partly as an excuse to listen to Lorewalker Cho's stories when I was done. The treasures in Draenor could have had lore tied into them like that. I'd have liked that.<br />I wasn't a fan of Timeless Isle after about the first week because it was too repetitive to me, but it was still better than the one off treasures in Draenor. On another note... I'm really pretty bad at jumping puzzles. So that might be a factor in my enjoyment.PlaidElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15322405383723446243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-36618239451458323332015-05-29T18:57:11.873-04:002015-05-29T18:57:11.873-04:00I do believe this is one of the major "conten...I do believe this is one of the major "content" things they are going to offer us now that we are grounded. Seems we both disagree with them, but that is not exactly surprising.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-50295274198935674312015-05-29T18:55:32.027-04:002015-05-29T18:55:32.027-04:00Same, love treasures, not so fond of jumping all o...Same, love treasures, not so fond of jumping all over the place to get them. <br /><br />I personally like pet battles but I think the best thing about them is that they are 100% independent of the rest of the game so if you did not want to do them you lose nothing by not doing so. The treasures felt liked I "needed" to do them on day one for garrison resources. On alts I just wait and let them build up instead.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-62737617941847234152015-05-29T18:53:05.902-04:002015-05-29T18:53:05.902-04:00I agree with the annoying part. Busting your butt...I agree with the annoying part. Busting your butt for 10 minutes trying to get to something to see it only had 12 garrison resources is the most annoying thing in the world if you ask me. Makes you say, why am I even doing this?<br /><br />I did them all as well on my main, but as I said, I do not touch them on my alts. If it is on the ground and I pick it up, sure I take every single one of those, but if I need to even waste a few seconds jumping to get it I move along and surely do not even consider the glider ones on alts.<br /><br />Your suggestions do sound the same as mine. Glad to see someone is thinking similar. Same goes for me not thinking it is worth the development effort either.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-26046030655195578472015-05-29T18:49:23.151-04:002015-05-29T18:49:23.151-04:00LMAO
You are so right about that. I admit more t...LMAO<br /><br />You are so right about that. I admit more than a few times I went to jump and just got the mount special. Each time that happens I say, I wish I had flying.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-78417016738939012372015-05-29T18:48:36.007-04:002015-05-29T18:48:36.007-04:00I can not say if I would have liked them without a...I can not say if I would have liked them without a friend, but I could guess it would have not been nearly as fun if I did that discovery all on my own. And surely I would have given up on that one I could not get to.<br /><br />I agree with the "games designed for them" idea. It does not seem as if this is really a game designed for them. And the rewards were dismal, which gives even less of a reason to do them.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-21945279319065410432015-05-29T18:46:10.689-04:002015-05-29T18:46:10.689-04:00Nice idea for better stuff.
Could have been cool ...Nice idea for better stuff.<br /><br />Could have been cool if the things needed to build the auction house were found that way as well going with your train of thought a little.<br /><br />They do tend to come to the wrong conclusions often. As I said about the dailies before. People said they did not like them so they removed them. But they came to the wrong conclusion. It was not the dailies they disliked, it was the gating of the dailies they disliked and locking the valor gear behind them and having to do one rep before you could start another. But they drew, as you mentioned, the wrong conclusion.<br /><br />I agree, the joy of the TI treasures was getting something "good" out of them. Didn't seem like anything good came out of the ones in warlords. I vendored everything I ever picked up.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-7624477231704363802015-05-29T18:13:57.109-04:002015-05-29T18:13:57.109-04:00Anon, Grumpy's former Guild Leader:
I have fo...Anon, Grumpy's former Guild Leader:<br /><br />I have found a few treasures here and there, and I suppose I did actually jump my way up the hill or whatever to get them. I really did not notice those treasures as jumping games, so I evidently found the very easiest things that were supposed to lure me into trying to find out how to get to the rest of them. It failed. Took one look at a treasure that was sitting in a tree above me and the ropes I think I was supposed to tightrope my way across to get there and said "no." I have no interest in such games, mini or otherwise. <br /><br />If Blizzard seriously thinks that qualifies as content, I have a real problem with that. I did not enjoy the jumping game in old Nagrand of Outland. I hated it then. I hate it now. Blizzard is not designed to be a jumping game of any sorts. What makes them think it is a good idea? Did someone get a Super Mario game for a birthday gift? Or is it part and parcel of a systemic effort to break WoW? Yeah, that last one sounds like tinfoil hat territory to me as I write it, but at this point it seems almost as likely as any other thought, fore or after that went into WoD. <br /><br />And that is supposed to be the compelling, immersive content that is replacing flying? Good game Blizz, soon you will be right up there with 3dO (or what ever the Might & Magic company was before it went belly up). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-39973698553957983402015-05-29T18:08:46.460-04:002015-05-29T18:08:46.460-04:00While I do like the treasure gathering, I don'...While I do like the treasure gathering, I don't like the jumping games. The reason for that is simple, I always sucked at platform games. So adding a bit of those platform games in my MMO or any RPG is a no go for me. Luckily there's not that many of them that were too hard in WoW. There's other MMO's that are full of those hard jumping games and for me that's a big reason not to play them.<br /><br />I'm also purist in a way that I find that those cross gaming features have no place at all in an MMO, which in my eyes are still RPG's and you shouldn't turn my RPG into a platformer. I think the same about pet battles and any other cross platform rubbish they added to WoW. But I'm well aware that a lot of people like these things and that I might be in the minority here.zypeknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-85026813923486276732015-05-29T17:39:22.465-04:002015-05-29T17:39:22.465-04:00No.
I could just leave it at that, but I'll e...No.<br /><br />I could just leave it at that, but I'll explain.<br /><br />I found them annoying (especially the glider and jumping puzzle ones) and only did them because I am a completionist and needed garrison resources early on. This game is not a physics simulator or a puzzle game... it's a RPG, so I don't think that type of content fits with the game.<br /><br />I would have preferred just having a few of them that only gave things like pets/toys (or the mount idea that oro mentioned). But having dozens of them where most just gave a few garrison resources or useless gear was just too much.<br /><br />I'll never do them on alts after having done them on my main.<br /><br />I preferred the Lorewalkers monuments in MoP to the treasures in WoD since there weren't that many, they were in nice 'scenic' locations, and you got a title/mount/achievement from visiting them all. So it seemed worthwhile, but was totally skippable.<br /><br />Suggested improvements for treasures:<br />-Have less of them (a few per zone or something)<br />-Make them more rewarding<br />-Make some of them repeatable (the ones in the well traveled areas like daily hubs, etc)<br />-Make them easy to get to but not necessarily easy to find (i.e., no crazy jumping puzzles; they should fine work with or without flying)<br /><br />So my suggestions are pretty similar to Grumpy's.<br /><br />Overall, I'm not sure they're worth the development effort though.Jaegerhttps://twitter.com/makosdvnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-9924801938473643982015-05-29T17:34:20.747-04:002015-05-29T17:34:20.747-04:00An annoying problem is if you try to jump straight...An annoying problem is if you try to jump straight up on a ground mount, it does an emote instead.vinciblegodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09388286593548449545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-85373207792454005312015-05-29T17:17:38.742-04:002015-05-29T17:17:38.742-04:00The first question that comes to my mind is would ...The first question that comes to my mind is would you have enjoyed those jumping puzzles in beta if you were not with a friend? After missing that tree for the 7th time, would you have gone back all by yourself for an 8th, 9th or 10th attempt without your friend there to rez you? In my experience even the most mundane grind can be fun with good company so I hope you can understand where I am coming from when I ask that question.<br /><br />As far as jumping puzzles for myself, I have only enjoyed them in games designed for them. Rayman, Prince of Persia, some of the Tomb Raider series etc… Timeless Isle was only done because it was a quick way to gear alts. While after picking up a couple of the easy treasure boxes on Draenor and seeing that was nothing but garbage in them, I quickly forgot about them and decreed them a waste of time. <br /><br />So I guess in the end, if there is a reward worth the time I have to spend getting the treasure, then sure I’ll download a guide and get the treasure. But I don’t typically play WoW to do plat forming or jumping puzzles. There are too many other games out there that do it a heck of a lot better. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-60141742813117094102015-05-29T15:37:17.073-04:002015-05-29T15:37:17.073-04:00Yes I like jumping puzzles but not enough to do th...Yes I like jumping puzzles but not enough to do them when the rewards are pure garbage. If they had put components to build a mount in chests throughout draenor or something to that effect I would have rushed out to do them (once). But not for garrison resources. The fun of searching for treasures on TI was in the chance of getting a useful starting epic, not in receiving those stupid coins. I wish I could have properly explained stuff like that to blizz when I unsubbed but they only give you 250 characters. It's unfortunate because they seem to have an uncanny knack for drawing the wrong conclusions from the data they collect. Intentional obfuscation maybe?oronoreply@blogger.com