tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post8719382221574453122..comments2024-03-27T07:57:48.010-04:00Comments on The Grumpy Elf: Leveling Needs Fixing.TheGrumpyElfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-73226332763329169212011-09-29T03:52:35.899-04:002011-09-29T03:52:35.899-04:00I think you are confusing time commitment with cha...I think you are confusing time commitment with challenge. The game doesn't have to last 70 days to max level. It just has to bring some kind of "challenge" in the way of encouraging thinking and cautiousness. Time isn't the factor here in difficulty.<br />Look at the first few levels (1-9, without heirlooms). It's increadible fast but still not such a faceroll like 10+.lancorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13324369460660785029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-74676389090666497522011-09-28T23:49:39.243-04:002011-09-28T23:49:39.243-04:00Elite quests give a reason to look for others to h...<i>Elite quests give a reason to look for others to help you and give a sense of community in a way and now they want to remove them.</i><br /><br />They might have, at some point in the distant past. But now "elite" quests highlight the fact that those leveling zones are ghost towns. It's great that you helped that random dude in Northrend. For every one of those guys, there are 100 who futilely plead in /1 and then... what? Skip the quest and keep on going. <br /><br />By retooling the elite quest, which long-since served its purpose in encouraging grouping back in the day (e.g. when that content was relevant), at least they are allowing (sometimes lore-centric) content that would have otherwise been skipped to be seen by someone not getting carried through it.<br /><br />As for your ridiculous leveling timewall suggestion... err, gogo Korean grindfest? Less "rabble" would certainly be polluting your pristine endgame, but good luck actually ever using the LFD tool at all. I would imagine that you could solve the "problem" of bad players by only associating with guildmates, but I can understand how the very thought of plebeians mucking up in the same game could disgust you so.<br /><br />The irony is that I would even agree that Blizzard reducing leveling time harms new players, when it seems clear the speed increases are tailored toward alts of veterans. But the misanthropy here is slathered on so thickly, I'm not sure two showers will be enough to wash it off.Azurielhttp://inanage.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-24015375070876868832011-09-28T16:06:19.325-04:002011-09-28T16:06:19.325-04:00@ Jonathan, it could be a rose tinted glasses thin...@ Jonathan, it could be a rose tinted glasses thing but I think it is more of a I like to earn my level type thing. <br /><br />I agree, it seems all about raiding now and calling it simon says is perfect. Once everyone figures out where to move, you mastered the fight. <br /><br />@ Hugh, people that read blogs are not the people that you see in dungeons that need the help. If the people could find the blogs that means they probably looked into things which means they already know how to play, some at least. The problem is most people don't look. That might be why the reception is not great. The people that need guides are not seeing it.<br /><br />@ Rades I know about that one, one of few, very few.<br /><br />@ Godmother They will be making it faster and easier. <br /><br />Honestly I think they should just let anyone with a 85 of a class start a new 85 of the same class on any server. All leveling is now is a waste of game time. It is not like it is fun or interesting or different. You have to follow the same linear line and it is only going through the motions, even if you auto attacked only you could make it through the old world with few to no issues.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-44271404670567319212011-09-28T13:56:20.647-04:002011-09-28T13:56:20.647-04:00I think you might be suffering from the confusion ...I think you might be suffering from the confusion of having played WoW at a time when "the game" was leveling. Now "the game" is "the endgame" meaning "raiding the most current dungeon."<br /><br />I found that to experience classic / BC WoW, I had to change games. EQ2 feels very much like "Advanced Classic WoW" to me. Cataclysm WoW feels more like playing "Simon Says Online".<br /><br />Your mileage may vary.Jonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-86277476769904322192011-09-28T13:16:14.210-04:002011-09-28T13:16:14.210-04:00Not sure if we did a good enough job of publicisin...Not sure if we did a good enough job of publicising this, but did you know that we actually wrote a bunch of guides on the Melting Pot aimed at solving the, er, noob problem?<br /><br />They're <a href="http://www.mmomeltingpot.com/2011/08/whats-going-wrong-easy-guides-for-new-players-of-every-class-spec-and-role-in-wow/" rel="nofollow">over here at "noob guides"</a>. <br /><br />Basically, after a few too many dungeon runs with rogues wearing cloth and DKs wielding one one-handeed weapon, we decided to write something that we could send people who really, really don't know what they're doing to. <br /><br />They don't seem to have had a great reception - not sure why. But anyway, if they're of any use, there they are.Hugh @ MMOMeltingpothttp://www.mmomeltingpot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-35057877409030208282011-09-28T12:11:08.625-04:002011-09-28T12:11:08.625-04:00Have you quested through Hillsbrad as a new Horde ...Have you quested through Hillsbrad as a new Horde player? There is an infamous group quest there that surprises EVERYONE with how brutal it is, and how much the "group" suggestion is absolutely required and not just a friendly suggestion. I'm talking about Yetimus, a huge Yeti that you need to take down, who knocks you back and stomps you and knocks you into hostile mobs...it's a nightmare. But also, refreshing! It IS possible to solo, but my baby mage doing it at level took me...oh man, it must have been 6-7 tries and ALL of my kiting tricks.<br /><br />So there's still SOME group quests out there...but I agree, the phasing element of most new zones makes it a little tough. :\ It's one of the reasons I've always enjoyed the Crucible of Carnage type quests, with how UNphased they were, and with almost zero prerequisites, so that people could always participate no matter how far they were through the zone.Radeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07258438792268722044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-88348364497972276302011-09-28T12:05:03.172-04:002011-09-28T12:05:03.172-04:00I cannot agree more with this post. People need to...I cannot agree more with this post. People need to learn how to play and they simply won't do that if they can max level in a couple of days.<br /><br />I hope that this will be addressed at Blizzcon with a better streamlining of the entire levelling experience, but part of me thinks they'll just make it easier still...Moveable Presshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09142421045872583295noreply@blogger.com