tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post7194946137457130195..comments2024-03-27T07:57:48.010-04:00Comments on The Grumpy Elf: Gaming as a Job? - Coming to WoW.TheGrumpyElfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-78879513763278873262011-08-04T21:58:43.400-04:002011-08-04T21:58:43.400-04:00I think people commenting negatively raise some go...I think people commenting negatively raise some good points, but if a real money AH gets implemented none of the problems will be Blizzard's. Nobody on your server sells for gold? People will notice when sales decline. Rich people getting geared faster than poor people? Unless they're your guildmates and stealing your raid slot that doesn't effect you at all (and if they are stealing your raid slot, a) they're jerks, b) your raid leader's a jerk, c) that means someone with lots of gold could do the same now, and d) if you play the AH right you could BE the guy using his money to gear quickly). Things get more cutthroat? Blizzard will deal with abuse, and the fact that they aren't banning gold buyers (and are getting subs from sellers) will let them go crazy with the Banhammer without a net loss of money. Can't deal with the fact that some parts of the game can now lead to "lost" money? That's a pretty weak argument when you look at the list of benefits. <br /><br />Personally, having said that, I kind of hope we can only get "Blizz Bucks" out of this, or at least have to give Blizzard a sizable percentage of any money that gets "cashed out". The former would be best for the gold AH while still allowing people to pay their subs without an external income, while the latter would reduce the number of people for whom the cash AH would be worth using for anything other than subs/character transfers/other Blizzard game.<br /><br />Finally, one benefit that wasn't listed would be the lowering of the paywall- people could just buy Vanilla with their real money and the xpacs with money earned in game. That could be huge for getting new players.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-77428629341507556602011-08-04T09:39:39.566-04:002011-08-04T09:39:39.566-04:00I'm not sure if one can make cash out of aucti...I'm not sure if one can make cash out of auction house. All the 'real' dollar one make in-game can only be used within Battle.net... e.g. paying your game time etc. I don't think one can redeem cash...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-52911199104771505312011-08-03T20:26:56.246-04:002011-08-03T20:26:56.246-04:00You said that you would list whipetail for 5 bucks...You said that you would list whipetail for 5 bucks - gold sellers offer 10k gold for 10 bucks on my realm. why should someone buy 20 whipetail for 5000g? <br />I m pretty sure this will maybe work on Diablo but the market of wow is already runined- Blizzard didn t do anything to introduce any kind of moneysink into the game. While it was a pain in the ass to get your epic mount in vanilla you can now easy grind thousends of gold with dailys in a few days. In vanilla and BC making gold was a challenge i now sit on 350k gold and i can t do anything usefull with it. The market is flooeded with cheap stuff and everyone sits on a fortune. why should anyone waste any real money on wow stuff? Why should i buy a epic sword for 100 bucks when i easly can grind the gold for it together in less than a week? The whole crafting system in wow is a joke aswell as the market- and therefor i see no chance to introduce such a system to wow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-71105304905743731902011-08-03T19:36:44.710-04:002011-08-03T19:36:44.710-04:00Thanks for continuously implying that you have mor...Thanks for continuously implying that you have more money than the rest of us normal people. Nothing like rubbing people's faces in your arrogance when the economy is this bad. Maybe people just want to play and we counted on Blizzard to protect our fun instead of siding with the unethical gold sellers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-62809435896024856832011-08-03T17:56:04.948-04:002011-08-03T17:56:04.948-04:00I cannot help but cast a cynical eye to your rosy ...I cannot help but cast a cynical eye to your rosy view of the future. If anything, it will make the game even MORE cutthroat, as ninja-looting and griefing become even more commonplace. Still, it's possible it could be a positive net contribution. It's impossible to say at the moment.Amberionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10926169887682143740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-69029106506382281072011-08-03T16:54:00.476-04:002011-08-03T16:54:00.476-04:00This MIGHT make me leave the game. Once real mone...This MIGHT make me leave the game. Once real money is involved in this way it changes the atmosphere. I agree completely with Shintar's post in this regard. And how will it affect my ability to buy things from the auction house for in-game gold? Why would someone post an item just for gold and not for cash? I buy most of my gems and enchants for gold but would NOT pay real money for them. Will I still be able to find gems and enchants or will I have to go without because no one will post things for just plain old gold anymore?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-25524639619317216352011-08-02T20:56:34.568-04:002011-08-02T20:56:34.568-04:00I can see this being awesome for people who enjoy ...I can see this being awesome for people who enjoy playing the action house, but since it's a part of WoW that I don't engage in, I would not want to participate in a real money game economy either, in fact I'd quit with no remorse, that's just not a game for me.<br />So we can talk about how it's good for the game, but the game needs willing players, and the D3 receptions weren't positive at all, I don't see this coming to WoW.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-619677863436176962011-08-02T13:43:22.213-04:002011-08-02T13:43:22.213-04:00From a pure gameplay perspective, I think this is ...From a pure gameplay perspective, I think this is bad for any game.<br />The person with the best items will always be the richest or the one most willing to spend RL money on virtual items and not the ones that really know how to play the gold game and invest their time into it, or just the one that plays a lot and plays smart.<br />I'm from Brazil and people over here usually don't have as much money as Americans or Europeans (broadly speaking), specially if you consider exchange rates (although this might be a non issues since WoW is coming to Brazil this year). I know many many Brazilians that pay their subscription with gold so they do not have to spend US$15 every month.<br /><br />On the other hand, BoE gear usually is not the best gear, but only a way to gear up faster. You usually get better items in raids, specially heroic raids, so the most hardcore players will still get their prestige gear. For the average Joe though, if he's not willing to spend RL money, he'll stay behind.<br /><br />Rewarding players for their money and not for their skill and time invested is just wrong.<br /><br />I understand and agree with your outlined points, they were my thoughts exactly when I read the announcement. It makes sense for Blizzard to do it, and I think Diablo supports this much better than WoW from the little that I know about the game. Nevertheless, I agree it's inevitable that this system comes to WoW and I'm already dreading it, both because I will be tempted to spend (like I did with most stupid vanity items in the Blizzard store...) and because game balance will have an injust RL money factor.<br />On an extreme comparison, I think this is like legalizing drugs. Doing it will probably end many violence problems, but people that wouldn't consume them because they don't want to be illegal will start to do it. Plus legalizing it doesn't change the fact that it's bad for your health.<br />They will avoid account theft and bans but will make the game worse in the process for people who never messed with these things in the first place.Xayíde@Gurubashinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-44860145363418655262011-08-02T11:08:04.375-04:002011-08-02T11:08:04.375-04:00I doubt that this would save Blizzard money from n...I doubt that this would save Blizzard money from not having to sue gold sellers anymore, because instead they'd have to deal with the legal repercussions of dealing with <i>real</i> money, account theft being a <i>real</i> crime and so on and so forth.<br /><br />Also, maybe I'm naive, but I do hope that they never actually implement this in WoW. I wouldn't buy anything with real money, but the mere knowledge that I could <i>sell</i> things for real money would be too much I think. Lost a roll on an epic BoE? Now it's not just a game anymore, you missed out on real money. Don't feel like farming today? You're missing out on real money! There's a reason most people like to keep their jobs and their hobbies separate, because when you're always worrying about how much money you're (not) earning while doing something, it becomes a lot less fun than when you just do it for the sake of it. <br /><br />(Reposted to fix tags.)Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-34866992386703929572011-08-02T11:06:42.421-04:002011-08-02T11:06:42.421-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-86331774252829309902011-08-02T10:25:52.383-04:002011-08-02T10:25:52.383-04:00I sorta kinda almost agree that it will likely bec...I sorta kinda almost agree that it will likely become a permanent feature of online games in the future but it will be a good while down the road before it hits WoW. D3 isn't even in beta yet and while I think it likely you are correct that eventually WoW will see this system implemented eventually, I can't see it happening till after it has proven itself successful in D3<br /><br />I will admit that the first thing I thought of when I saw that on MMO-Champions, was omg, a nice way to pay for my subscription and maybe make a bit more on the side to boot.<br /><br />I am posting as anonymous in case any of our guild mates are reading this site, but you know who I am...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com