tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post7126733054399609632..comments2024-03-27T07:57:48.010-04:00Comments on The Grumpy Elf: Leveling in Mists: What Will You Do?TheGrumpyElfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-66292887681673277622012-09-19T12:54:04.630-04:002012-09-19T12:54:04.630-04:00Yeah, as I mentioned there, farm is not optional c...Yeah, as I mentioned there, farm is not optional content. Many people have been led to believe that. It can not be stressed enough. You got the right idea for sure.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-61254907083520010172012-09-19T11:51:55.341-04:002012-09-19T11:51:55.341-04:00The reputations gate a lot of starter epic gear. G...The reputations gate a lot of starter epic gear. Golden Lotus opens up August Celestials and Shadow-pan dailies. It's pretty easy to get stuck on alts unable to spend valor but become capped if you don't hit this rep grind or klaxxi. Also alts get double vp after you cap your main. Oh and get your farm started as soon as possible. shreedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16684941942807602527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-83486807024777200592012-09-19T09:25:36.448-04:002012-09-19T09:25:36.448-04:00Bad idea and I will give you the reason why. By t...Bad idea and I will give you the reason why. By the time you turn them all in, even if it is quick, the people that started right away will have a nice little lead on you.<br /><br />If you go right in, in an hour you can be ahead of the pack. If you waste even 20-30 minutes turning in quests that pack already started to spread out and more new people are coming in. So instead of spending an hour to get ahead of the pack you will spend 3-4 hours trying to catch up because you wanted to turn in those 25 quests for the small experience they offer.<br /><br />If you are not starting ASAP at release, the 25 quests is a fantastic idea. and I will do that on alts that I have no intention of running right away, but my main will not be doing that.<br /><br />Someone actually did all the math on it back for cataclysms release and they found that you would get more doing 3 cataclysm quests than you would get for doing 25 wrath ones, and that was not even counting the finding new areas and the killing of mobs, which could mean you would get more for 1 quest than 25 previous dailies.<br /><br />I would guess it would hold the same cataclysm to mists as it did wrath to cataclysm.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-64192208501774551062012-09-19T08:24:20.875-04:002012-09-19T08:24:20.875-04:00A very thorough guide, which I shall bookmark and ...A very thorough guide, which I shall bookmark and refer others to, but I didn't notice any mention of this:<br /><br />Max out on current quests (ideally from hub areas), and then hand them in after the expansion hits, to give you a nice boost.<br /><br />Tol Barad, Molten Front, etc. Handing in 25 such quests has been a traditional way to get a nice jump in experience and always worked well for me.enigmachinehttp://twitter.com/enigmachinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-83965968558482760982012-09-19T07:00:21.757-04:002012-09-19T07:00:21.757-04:00I might consider that as an option, but I do prefe...I might consider that as an option, but I do prefer the quest route over all. The only issue with that is other people. But the way they changed it so if anyone hits a the big mob at the end of quest lines they get credit takes away the one major fault of questing, the waiting for the respawn of the end quest line mob.<br /><br />I did not do the dungeons at all in mists, again, to save content for the live game. So I do not know the layouts well enough to pull off what you said which would be another reason I would consider it inefficient for myself. <br /><br />Not to mention, I hate depending on other people. I would need a group ready to go and one that moves at the pace I move. I don't even know one person that can do that as bad as that sounds. lolTheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-4892466020315028652012-09-19T06:30:44.004-04:002012-09-19T06:30:44.004-04:00Maybe they changed the XP requirements again. I re...Maybe they changed the XP requirements again. I really hope so, I guess I just have to wait and see.<br /><br />For dungeons, I tried it a few times. The first level really is faster, we need about 10-12 minutes per dungeon and about 10 dungeons for 86. The trick is to pull all the mobs together to the next boss, trigger the scripts, place your guild banner and aoe them down.<br />We also use a warlock tank because a real one just couldn't keep aoe aggro while pulling them together. At least the paladin couldn't<br /><br />You could probably keep up with the pace questing, if it weren't for all the competition in mobs there. And as far as I remember, Jade Forest also has at least two bottlenecks that could really slow you down, depending on how crowded it is<br /><br />But any instance after 86 or without proper planning is extremely inefficient, I agree with you therelancorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13324369460660785029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-90600793761184709462012-09-19T05:53:44.250-04:002012-09-19T05:53:44.250-04:00I had the inscription monopoly in wrath for a good...I had the inscription monopoly in wrath for a good three months. Seemed no one else wanted to level it. It was awesome.<br /><br />I'll have to take a look at that later if I remember. I love his stuff.<br /><br />I like leveling faster because I like to work on my reps and gearing up, so then I can relax and enjoy. If that makes sense.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-52739824646411077692012-09-19T05:51:23.973-04:002012-09-19T05:51:23.973-04:00I would have agreed with you if I had not leveled ...I would have agreed with you if I had not leveled a second character on beta.<br /><br />My first one I was done with all the quest and needed to grind mobs to move to the next area. There were not enough quests.<br /><br />My second character through I was not much more than 1/2 through when I leveled and move to the next area.<br /><br />Unless they removed the quests they added, which I doubt, it is not as bad as it was when the beta first came out.<br /><br />Now as far as the 89-90 part, I did not do that last level, wanted to save something for live. So you might have a point there, but the early levels have changed a lot.<br /><br />I disagree with the dungeons. Once, for quests, not more than that. After leveling many characters I can assure you, without a doubt, not as an opinion as a fact, dungeon leveling is MUCH slower than quest leveling.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-86021237679449652722012-09-19T05:12:19.416-04:002012-09-19T05:12:19.416-04:00Skipping quests:
Don't. Just don't. There ...Skipping quests:<br />Don't. Just don't. There are barely enough quests in Pandaria to get you through the zones after you completed them all. If they don't hotfix the last zones before launch, they won't even have enough to carry you through if you move to them without completing the past zones. You are missing about 10% XP in the 88 zone, and 5% in the lvl 89 one, even with guild perks.<br /><br />Dungeons:<br />If you have a group, know how to do them they are a pretty good idea. Especially if you rotate guild banners with their XP Bonus.<br />85->86 through dungeons will not only be faster then questing, but it will put you ahead of the crowd. Ding to 86, skip the heavily competed 85 zone and start right in one of the 86 zones, which are probably almost empty at that point. From there on, you will increase your lead over the crowed with every minute thanks to undisturbed questing.<br />But doing instances beyond 86 is indeed ineffective and will most likely just make you hate them before you even reached max level. lancorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13324369460660785029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-74358860911570467632012-09-18T22:24:49.044-04:002012-09-18T22:24:49.044-04:00For me personally, the only reason to rush would b...For me personally, the only reason to rush would be to get Gold quicker (sooner level cap = sooner XP to Gold, temporary Profession 'monopolies', and enjoying the traditional too-high Drop rates of strong BoE's etc. that eventually get nerfed). And with very little to buy, there's little point to that imo (not exactly a Mount collector, and Professions I prefer to grind out myself) - though I'm keeping my fingers crossed people will dump the BoE's useable by Expansion Holdouts again for pittance like they did with Cata start.<br /><br />OT: WoWcrendor alledgedly interviewed GC about the CRZ's and such (now CRZ's are not for low pop issues, but to see other people while levelling. Death from above is fun apparently)<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddMQBkjyFc&feature=g-all-u<br />NetherLandsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-70300646809328732962012-09-18T17:54:33.413-04:002012-09-18T17:54:33.413-04:00I think I am right there with you. I want to enjo...I think I am right there with you. I want to enjoy it more. I will rush my main because that is who I am and what I do, but I don't think I will stress out the others and quite honestly I am starting to believe, even if I fight it some, I would be content never raiding again and just doing the LFR to see content.<br /><br />That would only work for me if there was enough non-raid content and I am sure there will not be.<br /><br />Seems like you have your leveling well planned. Take it easy, no need for this to be another cataclysm where those first few weeks are a blur.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-51855320144620085642012-09-18T16:14:25.534-04:002012-09-18T16:14:25.534-04:00My guild is *always* in a huge rush to get to leve...My guild is *always* in a huge rush to get to level cap and raid. I don't know why. Why rush in the start and then complain of burnout when everyone else is just getting ready to begin? That's the trend, it seems, in my guild. Being a favored healer means I usually have to reasonably keep up...but I intend to level as *slowly* as possible this time. I'll be on foot for most of the levelling process. I'll be taking screenshots, reading all the quests, *doing* all the quests, working on archaeology and other professions, farming, battling pets - in sum, I'm going to stretch this out as long as I can.<br /><br />I had a great time levelling this way in BC and Wrath, and I'm in no hurry to raid or even run heroics this time around. I really want to savor this new expansion and absorb it very slowly....like a brand new game.<br /><br />I don't play a lot of alts; in fact I have only three after four years, and only one of them is 85 (aside from my main). I just don't enjoy repeating content in that way, so it's important to me that I take it slow and really soak it all in the first time.<br /><br />Cataclysm's first month was a big blur for me, and I don't want that to happen again.<br /><br />We agreed as a guild to start running heroics four weeks after Catacylsm launched. That wasn't enough time, and then we actually started at three weeks. I barely remember the quests or zones from trying to speed through everything. No one was ready except those few...I'll call them "enthusiastic" players. I can't play marathon 12 hour stretches every single day. I can't play until 4 AM every single day, call in sick, and keep going. I have a job where I am at a computer all day. I have a house. A garden. I like to cook, and clean, and play records and chat with friends and I just don't care about raiding as much as I care about these other things. At this point, I'm happy to go along on raid farm-runs this time around, or just use LFR to get my raid fix.<br /><br />That said, I am excited to get started! MathewGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02490938657354510847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-57881354221447331512012-09-18T15:01:09.072-04:002012-09-18T15:01:09.072-04:00The achievement content is what will drive me too ...The achievement content is what will drive me too at the start. I love that stuff you can get solo. So sad it goes by so quickly.<br /><br />Sounds like you have a well rounded plan set up. I'm with you on the rogue. I really do not like them much either.<br /><br />My monk will be a tank, secondary spec is a non issue. It will be a tank and that is it. The healing or the DPS specs do not interest me even in the slightest.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-52343420040492377902012-09-18T13:44:57.819-04:002012-09-18T13:44:57.819-04:00I want to get to 90 and start getting all those ac...I want to get to 90 and start getting all those achievement points. I want to gear up and run dungeons with my friends and get ready to raid as soon as possible, even though I don't have a raid team right now. I've got the beginnings of one and I'm hopeful that it'll get sorted sooner rather than later.<br /><br />I don't want to rush though. You only get to level up one time when it's new. I don't care if I'm not as economical as possible. In cata I levelled up my main doing every quest in each zone in order. I hit 85 halfway through Deepholm if I remember right. I kept on questing and got Loremaster of Cataclysm before I set foot in a single dungeon. For every subsequent alt I've only quested in each zone until I can move onto the next. For the characters I don't particularly enjoy playing I've only quested while waiting on the dungeon finder. For some, like my holy priest, I've not even done that I've afked while waiting for dungeons.<br /><br />I don't see why I can't do the same in Mists. My only hesitation would be the handful of levelling dungeons that I don't think you can access once you hit 90. It might be interesting to see if there are any mechanical differences between the versions. However, if you can access the levelling version later then I'll either go with friends, or solo it when I'm geared. Either that or I'll see it on another character so I guess it doesn't matter either way.<br /><br />I cleared out all my cata stocks of stuff ages ago aside from enchanting mats. These I kept, and am adding to as much as possible, for when I level enchanting again on my monk. I've made sure I have all the mats to get to 425, and I'm hoping I'll have enough cata mats to get to 525 on day one.<br /><br />I haven't yet vendored my extra sets of gear for character off specs. I don't want to get rid of something that I might unexpectedly need. I will do that right before Mists goes live. My paladin, my main, needs a clearout as I've got tank, healing, dps, pvp dps and pvp healing gear. All but the dps needs to go, as I'll quest as ret, aside from what I'll keep for transmog. I'll also park my new paladin and druid in Tinkertown waiting for my monk, so they can grant levels as soon as I roll it. I'll level a monk the traditional way on my second server later. I want one at endgame faster than that will take.<br /><br />In terms of my levelling priority my main has to come first. Then I think it'll be my warrior as that's my gatherer and I want the mats to level professions, so I can gear my main and maybe make a few gold. Then it'll be my druid and then as much as I hate it logically my rogue should be next. My rogue can open lockboxes and is also a skinner. If it wasn't for the lockbox thing I'd level the monk, which I'm going to give skinning too, as I really don't like the rogue. After that who knows? I have 9 85's, 3 80's and I'll have a level 80 monk day one unless they backtrack on what they've said. Probably won't do much levelling after that until I've maxed my professions, and reputations, and geared my main. Then I'll be chasing all the new achievements. This time next week we'll be in Pandaria - I can't wait.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17771213542953346538noreply@blogger.com