tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post5626186171731127471..comments2024-03-27T07:57:48.010-04:00Comments on The Grumpy Elf: Are Mythic Dungeons Worth It?TheGrumpyElfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-37429843907789748682015-07-02T11:52:41.898-04:002015-07-02T11:52:41.898-04:00It is better now that they upped the chance of the...It is better now that they upped the chance of them dropping and increased the item level. I am still having a hard time finding groups for them on anything other than my tank.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-2308219532722157712015-07-02T04:51:17.752-04:002015-07-02T04:51:17.752-04:00Did 4 of them tonight, out of all the loot that dr...Did 4 of them tonight, out of all the loot that dropped there was about 1 warforged piece per instance. Pretty good in my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-66313398636199982522015-06-29T11:05:19.642-04:002015-06-29T11:05:19.642-04:00Yeah, triple near 0 is still near 0. So that does...Yeah, triple near 0 is still near 0. So that does not mean a hell of a lot. But if getting 705s is more likely then I could see running them. I could use 705s in nearly all slots.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-25253525978140798032015-06-26T20:09:24.372-04:002015-06-26T20:09:24.372-04:00They announced that next week, the chance of Mythi...They announced that next week, the chance of Mythic dungeon loot of being warforged to 705 will be tripled, so any drop will have a much higher chance of being 705. We'll have to see what the chance is though. If it was 1%, then 3X doesn't do anything....Jaegerhttps://twitter.com/makosdvnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-37420411980926412882015-06-26T15:36:34.608-04:002015-06-26T15:36:34.608-04:00I can see these mythic dungeons being pretty face ...I can see these mythic dungeons being pretty face roll soon enough with people getting raid gear soon. However I think the difference is there are still a lot of things in them, off trash mostly, that can one shot people if not interrupted. So even if they start becoming face roll easy, there will always need to be at least one person on the ball or deaths will happen.<br /><br />You have to hand assemble a group for them. Can't queue for them. So if you find a group willing to work as a team you should do fine. You get a group with a tank that thinks he is superman and some gogogo dps and you could be in trouble. Good luck.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-18733464889944212302015-06-26T14:07:28.568-04:002015-06-26T14:07:28.568-04:00Personally, sounds a lot like when Blizzard introd...Personally, sounds a lot like when Blizzard introduced the ICC dungeons. Those were hard because people planned to faceroll them like they had before. Now comes a dungeon that requires a bit of planning. <br /><br />I've been spending all my time in 6.2 trying to get flying completed, and I had forgotten mythics were even introduced. Maybe this weekend, I'll have a moment to run my 660 warlock through the grinder. I'll let you know how it goes..Elkagorasahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16868176919786509891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-69477621282901705282015-06-26T12:58:46.141-04:002015-06-26T12:58:46.141-04:00Okay, replaced his LFR tier pieces with baleful 69...Okay, replaced his LFR tier pieces with baleful 695 gear. Still better than mythic dungeons and easier to get.<br /><br />And really, I do not consider LFR as raiding, at least not in sense we are talking about. It can be queued for, it is easy, and anyone can do it even if they are not very good at the class they are playing. So it might be "raiding" but not when talking about gearing up without raiding. LFR does not count as raiding for the purpose.<br /><br />You are right they do not plan BiS gear if they do not raid, but they do look at item level only if they do not raid and will put on whatever has the highest item level. With that said, 695 gear is highest item level.<br /><br />I also think you are confusing "me" grinding where I would get it done in a weekend and "them" grinding where they would by two pieces a week.<br /><br />It is not as much of a grind as you think. Just doing all the dailies and killing a few rares you might stumble on means around 10K apexis crystals a day, that means 3 695 pieces a week. So yes, people are not into grinding like me, but there is absolutely no grinding involved for 3 695 pieces per week. Just time. If they have time, just doing dailies will get them gear. If they do not have time, well they need to go play another game or be happy with whatever gear they already have.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-37071565119048344942015-06-26T12:52:28.691-04:002015-06-26T12:52:28.691-04:00Wow, so cheesy, so great. lol
How long before bli...Wow, so cheesy, so great. lol<br /><br />How long before blizzard changes it to make it impossible for anyone under 100 to be summoned there?TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-1957609255328802182015-06-26T11:47:17.165-04:002015-06-26T11:47:17.165-04:00I don't get it, I said no raiding at all. He m...I don't get it, I said no raiding at all. He mentions LFR pieces that need to drop in there, legendary ring that assumes at least LFR, assumed World boss drops and so on.<br /><br />My alts have around 655-660 and don't have crafted gear, BoEs and never did LFR or world bosses. So with a few crafted I'd assume they'd be 670 which I could see in some people who aren't really into farming and want to avoid large groups.<br />Have two ex-raider friends in this situation who are thrilled about Mythic dungeons (don't know how long that will last).<br /><br />I actually don't believe grinding is all that popular, nor doing lfr every week. Only did each world boss only once (on my main).<br />You can stick to your opinion, but don't count on what you would grind out, grinding is actually not fun to some people. And most people actually don't plan BiS pre-raid gear if they don't raid.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18173436197557929355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-47878268104395204372015-06-26T11:28:55.190-04:002015-06-26T11:28:55.190-04:00So here's how you get felblight. Make a level ...So here's how you get felblight. Make a level 1. Do Kazzak. Repeat as needed. Seems very popular on our server.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18173436197557929355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-1258529348243010812015-06-26T10:36:05.015-04:002015-06-26T10:36:05.015-04:00I still seek nerd points because they give me dire...I still seek nerd points because they give me direction, so to speak. When I am sitting around with nothing to do, or better yet nothing I want to do, I'll look at what achievements I can go get and that creates content for me. So they are not really nerd points for me, they are content check points for me. Have I done [Mythic: Iron Docks]? If no, lets get too it. Woot, something to do.<br /><br />Outside of that, yes I agree. With less time to play and less than interesting rewards, I really do not think mythic has anything real to offer me either. If I had more time they might work for my alts if I can get people to carry them.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-46330680494528879702015-06-26T09:30:22.288-04:002015-06-26T09:30:22.288-04:00With play time not being overly abundant these day...With play time not being overly abundant these days, I don't think they offer anything that makes them a priority for me. I'll probably complete the new zone before I even think about touching them.<br /><br />And I'm not even sure that I'll do them then. I used to be all about the nerd points, but lately, unless an achievement rewards a pet, mount, or title, I can hardly muster the will to give a damn.<br /><br />WoD sickness.To Bee or Not to Beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10929748357206418382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-86134072072918160632015-06-26T07:53:32.077-04:002015-06-26T07:53:32.077-04:00Read Jaeger wrote below, he made his best in slot ...Read Jaeger wrote below, he made his best in slot non raid list.<br /><br />Not one single mythic dungeon piece.<br /><br />So I stand by what I say, it is not an alternative to gearing up outside of raiding.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-84046458612309053162015-06-26T07:47:03.543-04:002015-06-26T07:47:03.543-04:00From a blue tweet I am expecting normal BRF to mov...From a blue tweet I am expecting normal BRF to move directly into normal HFC, no need to fill the gap there with some dungeons that are actually harder than normal HFC which is what they would be bridging the game to.<br /><br />I will do them on alts, if I feel comfortable with doing it on them and I will do them on my main, all of them, once each for achievement sake. Otherwise they serve no purpose after I do them once, just like the original release dungeons.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-5899209899694353522015-06-26T07:44:59.981-04:002015-06-26T07:44:59.981-04:00I would say they are not as bad as cataclysm relea...I would say they are not as bad as cataclysm release dungeons, but they are comparable, sure.<br /><br />I don't think there is any item level requirement because you need to walk through the front door. There is no random grouping system so anyone in your group is someone you are okay with running with. So no level minimum is really required. This will allow people to help gear friends with fresh 100s later once they get used to them and start really over gearing them.<br /><br />Yeah, mythic dungeons are not really a different gearing path, and as you have show, even without raiding, not one single piece of it is worth getting. So the reward as an alternate gearing system is lacking.<br /><br />I don't think I would ever queue for one, even if they had a 710 item level minimum required to do them with a queue system. Most players in this game would not have a clue what CC, priority targets, interrupting, line of sight pulls, controlled pulls, etc are all about.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-32917841739695234742015-06-26T07:40:55.445-04:002015-06-26T07:40:55.445-04:00I do agree that blizzard seems to not be designing...I do agree that blizzard seems to not be designing for continued play and repeatability like they used to. They seem to be creating stuff for one time use and for an MMO that goes stale fast.<br /><br />Hope the game works out well for you. Never played it but I have heard of it. Sounds like if you are interesting in that type of game it could be pretty good.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-91891479760066445662015-06-26T04:27:50.038-04:002015-06-26T04:27:50.038-04:00With craft and garrison (without stepping foot eve...With craft and garrison (without stepping foot even in lfr), you get around 670. Though yeah, more miss than hit on this one.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18173436197557929355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-88773738995520363682015-06-26T01:43:53.972-04:002015-06-26T01:43:53.972-04:00I haven't tried them yet, but I will go and ha...I haven't tried them yet, but I will go and have a look and see. I thought they were a bridge for those moving from normal BRF to normal HFC, and I wonder who is actually doing them. I would do them just for curiosity but I don't NEED them. Hopefully someone out there needs them...Navimiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08504557372435466448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-13021361831102467452015-06-25T22:47:01.697-04:002015-06-25T22:47:01.697-04:00I haven't done any yet, but a friend said they...I haven't done any yet, but a friend said they reminded him of early Cata Heroics since they took an hour to complete.<br /><br />I'm guessing there's no iLvL requirement? If not, there probably should be.<br /><br />The rewards don't sound adequate though. I was using AskMrRobot to figure out my BiS gear options (no raid gear or pvp gear).<br /><br />I have 3 crafted that I'll upgrade to 705/715.<br />Then the rest is:<br />3 Empowered Baleful 695 items.<br />2pc LFR tier set (685)<br />2 705s from World boss<br />4 BoEs (could be another 705 from World Boss and 3 more Balefuls)<br />Legendary ring<br /><br />The 685 items from the Mythic dungeon aren't worthwhile and I doubt that the chance at a 700 has a decent drop rate. They usually don't. If the last boss always dropped 700, it might be worthwhile as an alternative to Baleful gear.<br /><br />If they had guaranteed 700 items and if I could queue for them (min iLvL 670), I'd do one every week. Otherwise, I'm not really interested.Jaegerhttps://twitter.com/makosdvnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-85137923492264157372015-06-25T15:56:37.425-04:002015-06-25T15:56:37.425-04:00From the latest forum posts it seems that WoD is t...From the latest forum posts it seems that WoD is the perfect rehab program for people addicted to WoW-crack. They seem to be headed for the exit in rather substantial numbers again.<br /><br />Maybe I'm wrong but this expansion is just an endles stream of blunders.<br /><br />Found a new game to play here though. Got into World Of Warships beta. It's beyond awesome. Has that little spot of "Entertainment Glue" which reels you in and hooks you. Like WoW used to have until recently.Seedy Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01901494033614338480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-20242241318359778732015-06-25T13:26:10.512-04:002015-06-25T13:26:10.512-04:00Alternative to what?
If someone chooses to level ...Alternative to what?<br /><br />If someone chooses to level gear progression through dungeons they can't. If you only do dungeons the best item level you are going to manage is a 636 item level. Hate to say it but unless you are as skilled as the guys in method and paragon or really want to spend a ton of time wiping until you get it right, I don't believe anyone can do mythic dungeons in 636 gear. <br /><br />Although, I would love to get 4 other people that are willing to try it with me, could be fun.<br /><br />If it were to be an alternative to raiding then it is way over tuned to be honest because you can not move from heroic dungeons to mythic ones.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-48001031026637700752015-06-25T13:23:30.883-04:002015-06-25T13:23:30.883-04:00Simple and to the point. Simple and to the point. TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-84254180616525580402015-06-25T10:53:51.804-04:002015-06-25T10:53:51.804-04:00Iirc, blizz said it was meant to be an alternate p...Iirc, blizz said it was meant to be an alternate progression path. So basically for people who don't raid for whatever reason. From this pov, I think the gear is acceptable. Something for a group of 5 friends, maybe ex raiders who want a bit of a challenge in a comfortable / no pug / no investment environment. Too small of a nieche, though. Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18173436197557929355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-72811824540590055342015-06-25T10:44:40.131-04:002015-06-25T10:44:40.131-04:00To anwser your question: yes
Gwyndel - Thunderhor...To anwser your question: yes<br /><br />Gwyndel - Thunderhorn EUAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com