tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post4776666737683565082..comments2024-03-27T07:57:48.010-04:00Comments on The Grumpy Elf: My Opinion on the Best, Worst and Favorite Zones of WarlordsTheGrumpyElfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-78369781761378346602015-02-05T14:01:04.771-05:002015-02-05T14:01:04.771-05:00I like flying too, and from looking around many pe...I like flying too, and from looking around many people do, you are not alone.<br /><br />Seems rather odd that so many people that loved nagrand in BC hate it now. I think you are the 3rd or 4th person here in not all that many posts that has said that.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-36996870367348802592015-02-05T13:49:51.403-05:002015-02-05T13:49:51.403-05:00Shadowmoon is actually my favorite. I just like th...Shadowmoon is actually my favorite. I just like the lay of the land and the questing. My least favorite are 3 - Gorgrond (too many 100's for a lower level area), Tala, and Nagrand, though I love Nagrand in TBC. Spires is 2nd. <br /><br />And I miss flying, don't care what anyone else thinks, I like flying.<br /><br />-roo -abhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14899567485973250660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-11230468893705155202015-02-05T08:25:45.336-05:002015-02-05T08:25:45.336-05:00Give spires a try, even if I am bias about it, and...Give spires a try, even if I am bias about it, and listen to what they say and read the quests for the story, it is quite enjoyable. Some of the things they say you can easily miss, but they are little bits of gold here and there, that is for sure.<br /><br />Gorgrond is like an "evil" you must do. I am so glad I have my leveling pattern down so well now that I only go there to get the followers and move along asap.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-71196594231814010652015-02-05T08:23:53.292-05:002015-02-05T08:23:53.292-05:00The voice acting was kind of cool. They are not s...The voice acting was kind of cool. They are not supposed to have male and female versions but you can clearly tell which is which. And some of the things they say are great, I love percy, the bird.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-10803646215910626822015-02-04T18:00:36.511-05:002015-02-04T18:00:36.511-05:00Looking back, I have to agree, Gorgond was painful...Looking back, I have to agree, Gorgond was painful. As soon as Talador opened up, I jumped to the next zone with my main. He hasn't looked back to finishing the quest chain. Nagrand is painful with the roaming 100s all over. I still need to finish questing here. <br /><br />So far, I've only completed the quest chains in Frostfire and Talador. Elkagorasahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16868176919786509891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-15695518932878484882015-02-04T16:11:09.323-05:002015-02-04T16:11:09.323-05:00I never finished questing all the zones.
If they ...I never finished questing all the zones.<br /><br />If they gave an achievement that allowed flight I would make it a priority to finish them.<br /><br />Between the starter zone (talador?) and the spires, I liked spires a bit better, if only for the voice acting and characters. "What are we without the sky?!"<br /><br />I have the same question.<br />--<br />Regards,<br /><br />regardsanonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-19200176293690057582015-02-04T10:10:18.622-05:002015-02-04T10:10:18.622-05:00I think, and have said many times, that loremaster...I think, and have said many times, that loremaster of draenor should be required to unlock fight.<br /><br />Sometimes easy enough that everyone can do it, and it make sure that everyone did everything, so they can not use the excuse that people are using flying to skip things.<br /><br />The treasures are fun... once. Not on many characters over and over, at least not the ones like in nagrand where you need to run all over the place to take a glider where you now need to land perfect and if you don't you need to make the long run back to try again. Just not exactly fun once you have done it once. My opinion of course. But finding them out in the world as you stumble across them, that is fun, yes.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-64878042639653491102015-02-04T09:49:53.561-05:002015-02-04T09:49:53.561-05:00Unfinished is a fair description of Gorgrond I thi...Unfinished is a fair description of Gorgrond I think.<br /><br />Yes, I would add flight back in for the convenience of alts or revisiting zones. <br />My proposal would be to make it zone-specific and tied to achievements e.g.<br />Explore Shadowmoon Valley<br />Shadowmoon Valley Quests achi<br />Collect xx treasures in Shadowmoon Valley.<br /><br />If you have all 3 of those achievements, you can buy a BoA book of flight for Shadowmoon Valley.<br /><br />Without doubt, we would have experienced the content in the way it was designed but we have also 'earned' the right to make it easier/more convenient for alts and can explore to our heart's content.<br /><br />I know you are not a fan of the treasures but that's one part I have really enjoyed. I've not spent a great deal of time searching for them, I just have a go at it if I stumble across one (if I feel like it at the time). Means I don't get particularly frustrated as I'm really just on my way to something else anyway. Solahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08193184689961780585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-18724015483008413512015-02-04T09:19:52.709-05:002015-02-04T09:19:52.709-05:00Another one that likes spires, I am so glad I am n...Another one that likes spires, I am so glad I am not alone. I thought I would be the only one that liked it.<br /><br />Gorgrond just seemed off, maybe the not complete feeling you and james and others have and the fact that there are so many graphical issue are one in the same. They just did not invest enough time in it to actually finish the zone. And it really shows.<br /><br />I liked spires even without flight, but not gorgrond. Shows that how you design things really matters. They are both filled with lots of mountains and impassable places but one I loved and one I hated. I agree spires is better without flight, the first time through, but it would be nice to have it later. Do you see all that stuff in the air? Don't you want to go see it? I know I do. I think it would work fine with no flying while leveling. You still get the real feel, and then when maxed, you can just get to where you want to or explore.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-37248164515513531802015-02-04T09:16:18.856-05:002015-02-04T09:16:18.856-05:00Nagrand is annoying like that. I hate having to r...Nagrand is annoying like that. I hate having to run all over the world to get lumber, ore or an herb. More so than the other zones. Even with staying mounted all the time it is still annoying.<br /><br />I did the treasures there on beta and said to my friend that I did them with, I am going to hate having to do this again on live. And I did hate it. I did it on my main and ONLY on my main. I do not care what they put there, there is no way in hell I am doing that crap again on alts. WTF was blizzard thinking, that is not "fun".<br /><br />That is something I forgot to mention, yes, it does kind of feel empty some, as if we forgot to do something. Even doing both buildings there is still much of the zone that feels unused.<br /><br />The cinematic at the end of talador was fantastic. I can watch that one over and over, and I do, on all my alts, when I just escape most cut scenes otherwise.<br /><br />I liked the bird and cat stories more than the orc ones, but that is preference. I am just about as sick of orcs as any elf could be.<br /><br />The garrisons, horde and alliance, need a back door, seriously. Not alliance as much, even if it would be nice, but horde most definitely.. I put in a suggestion for that on beta, saying they put the entrance in the wrong area for horde, looks like that must have missed that one.<br /><br />But the water has such great advanced visual effects. ;)TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-15866802230680058692015-02-04T09:10:18.351-05:002015-02-04T09:10:18.351-05:00I am surprised to see someone else like Spires. I ...I am surprised to see someone else like Spires. I thought I would be alone on that one. The feeling is the same with me. Just for some reason I really like it.<br /><br />There are so many places up in the air in spires I too would love to explore if and when we get flying. It oddly doesn't bother me as much as it should not having flying in a zone like that but every time I am in gorgrond or nagrand I wish I had it every second I am there.<br /><br />I think a lot of people who loved nagrand are not digging this nagrand even if it is mostly the same. You are not alone.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-78200782885091543192015-02-04T08:55:44.162-05:002015-02-04T08:55:44.162-05:00Spires of Arak was my favourite too, great storyli...Spires of Arak was my favourite too, great storylines and atmosphere along with the perfectly-pitched light relief from the goblins.<br />Shadowmoon Valley is up there for looks and atmosphere too, and I just love those trees doing yoga.<br /><br />Strangely enough, Gorgrond was also my least favourite for many of the same reasons. And it might just be me but it felt really short/small compared to the other zones, over before it really began.<br /><br />As someone who is firmly in the "don't miss flying" camp, my resolve was sorely tested whenever I get stuck in one of those 'holes' or hit 'walls' in Gorgrond (and, for the record, whenever I do any archaeology - my god, is it frustrating without flight).<br />The counterpoint to this is that I feel Spires would have lost much of it's appeal with flight, I don't think it would flow like it does now, and the 'puzzle' of collecting treasures etc. would be lost completely.<br /><br />Overall, I'm happy with no flight but can definitely see the opposing view.Solahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08193184689961780585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-7470646618614027662015-02-04T03:24:08.944-05:002015-02-04T03:24:08.944-05:00The one zone I found myself saying how much I hate...The one zone I found myself saying how much I hate is Nagrand. Not because of the quests. I just don't like that every time I see a node of ore or a lumber mill tree it's not up there where i am it's down in some ravine or it's not down there where I am, it's up somewhere where I'd have to go circle half the map. Also, they put 100 treasures up so I have to go to the same point to fly off to get them. It was cool for a couple of them to do that, but when you have 10 treasures linked to the same glider point that you have to spend an eternity to climb to, it just sucks. It's just too much effort both for the nodes and the treasures for me to bother, but the fact that I don't go to them still bothers me. So I hate Nagrand. Also, it's pretty generic greenery, nothing spectacular.<br /><br />I don't like Gorgrond either. It's a desert for the most part which I don't like. I like the jungle but veins you can't go through bother me a little too. But mostly, every time I finish the quests there I feel like I've done less than a third of the map, it feels very... incomplete.<br /><br />Talador is meh. I actually find it one of the least exciting. I like the Shattrah attack and cinematic at the end but that's about it. Oh, and the follower chain (with the Ogres and all). <br /><br />Spires of Arak is ok. But wanting to get some treasure and having to circle the mountain 'folds' is annoying. Yesterday I died twice falling in the same place and I rezed at the spirit healer after trying to get my body. I like the birds and cats but don't feel really involved with their story.<br /><br />Frostfire I actually really like quest-wise. I don't like the placement of the garrison because there's a huge ravine around it and I have to go west every time I want to go east to circle around that. Pisses me off. As for the looks, Blizzcon ruined it for me forever. When I see the snow, I remember it was supposed to be sand. And I see it as sand. And it loses its charm.<br /><br />Shadowmoon Valley looks amazing. Every time I fly off from a FP there, I take screenshots. I've only done the quests there once one my Alliance char and I don't recall much. I think I liked them.<br /><br />And then there's Warspear (Ashran). Which is small, crowded, as a bad layout and it takes 3 minutes to get from there back to my garrison and all I see is water for those 3 minutes.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18173436197557929355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9015737272343810105.post-53086086991420656552015-02-03T21:00:44.163-05:002015-02-03T21:00:44.163-05:00Spires is my favorite zone too. Not just the quest...Spires is my favorite zone too. Not just the quests, which I liked, but for some reason I can't explain I just love the look of it. There's plenty of running around and up and down in without flying but somehow it doesn't irritate me in Spires the way it sometimes does in Nagrand.<br />If they ever do give us our flying back that's definitely the first place I'd go to just fly around and explore.<br />I have a harder time picking a least favorite. I really enjoy all of the zones, but I guess if I have to picke one I'd say Nagrand is. I still like it, but don't find it quite as fun visually or as exciting as some of the others, though the quests are definitely good.PlaidElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15322405383723446243noreply@blogger.com